User talk:Dustin McAmera

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Hello! This is my Talk page. If you're a registered Camera-wiki user, this is the place to leave me a message or ask me questions: I get an email whenever someone adds text to this page. To be more private, you can use the Email this user link (at the bottom of the left-hand column, in the normal wiki layout). To write here (or on any wiki page), or to see that 'Email this user' link, you must have a CW account and be logged in. Then you'll see (at the top right, beside the Search box) a link called Add Topic; an edit-box should appear when you click this (You could use Edit instead, but don't edit other people's messages on this page).

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Cheers! --Dustin McAmera (talk) 06:05, 25 September 2014 (PDT)



As we continue machine-gunning down the kamikaze waves of spammers, I'm very doubtful "Bailey Helton" was a real person... but for names like that, which look marginally more plausible, lately I do try googling, searching Flickr users, etc. and maybe give them an extra day or two before nuking them. I did accidently block a friend of Steve's once  ;-) --Vox 06:45, 27 March 2012 (PDT)

Yes - I have been a bit red in tooth and claw today! I'll take some deep breaths, and have a weak green tea instead of the next coffee... --Dustin McAmera 06:53, 27 March 2012 (PDT)


Write the Century Graphic its own page (perhaps the Crown should also be separated from the Speed too: a focal plane shutter is quite a big deal, and the lens usage of the two is different too). The CG isn't a small Speed, it's more like a small Crown; and what the hell is a flexible wire viewfinder?

The phrase seems to be lifted directly from this list. But I don't know what it means! As far as I can tell from your photo, both our CG's are identical—although originally mine had the rangefinder flashgun bracket you can see in some people's photos. In any case, I agree with giving the CG its own page: Of the whole Graflex press series, it's probably the one that is most practical to shoot with today. --Vox 07:26, 31 January 2012 (PST)

Information source? And publicizing new work

Hi again,

I've been lurking on the IDCC mailing list, which seems to include a number of "wood & brass" -era collectors. Might it be useful to put out a call there for photos or info, regarding some of the early British brands you've been adding? I can relay the request if you'd rather not get buried under the (surprisingly high) traffic on the list. The wiki's Flickr stream can host images from non-Flickrers, if needed.

Also—whenever you get a new or much-expanded article to a reasonably settled place, don't be shy about calling it to my attention. I periodically tweet when there's a noteworthy category, article, or contributor deserving attention. Things like this can help with our Google search rankings, and I'm often pleasantly surprised when Twitter followers retweet these posts.--Vox 17:50, 29 January 2012 (PST)

Hi Ross! It certainly looks worth investigating. I've signed up to the list. Did you see there is also a list called Woodandbrass on the same system (apparently dead - the archive of past posts goes up to April 2008). I'll watch what traffic there is for a bit, and judge what, if anything, to ask for, and maybe we should post something general about CW, the site and the Flickr group. Will people on a system like this have heard of Flickr? It all looks a bit old-school (says a man who's never seen Twitter or, for that matter, Facebook).
Another thing I really have to do is visit the National Media Museum (which used to be the National Museum of Film and Photography, and has Kodak Uk's collection of cameras, and (I think) most of what used to be the Science Museum's colection too). I don't know how much is actually on show, or what their policy is on photographing the exhibits, but it's only in the next town, and I've never been to the museum part (I've been to their cinema a few times). They seem to have a research access system; need to find out if that extends beyond documents.
To be honest, I don't think it's a disaster if a page on CW doesn't show a picture. If we're aware that a certain camera existed, and we know a few facts about it, that's worthwhile even if we don't have a picture of it. Of course, pictures are great, and I like at least to have some to link to. Some of the Westlicht pictures are excellent, and they still have listings up that are ten years old, so I think they intend them to be there long term.
I'll try to keep a note of my (any anyone else's) best work; but, although I have enjoyed myself in CW over the winter, I'm not sure many of the new articles I've turned out are excellent. They improved coverage, and they let me continue writing when (as I said somewhere before) I have already gone beyond what I know a lot about. --Dustin McAmera 19:18, 29 January 2012 (PST)
maybe we should post something general about CW, the site and the Flickr group.
I have already made a few posts explaining what happened to Camerapedia, and inviting contributions to CW—in fact, a few may be sick of hearing about it ;-) But it would certainly do no harm to pop up there and explain that you're trying to improve CW's coverage of some particular eras/styles/brands of camera.
The National Museum sounds intriguing! I wish something like that were a little closer to me... All I can do is fill in the occasional Argus gap... --Vox 19:37, 29 January 2012 (PST)


Pete, I think, where you can, you should always provide a link to the 'real' Auction house site, eg Westlicht, Breker etc, and not to a secondhand aggregator like Live Auctioneers. IMHO Westlicht is the primary source and Live Auctioneers a secondary one. I only use the latter is there is no proper Auctioneer's site that has an archive (Which Westlicht, for ex. does)...keep up the good work and the trawling!--Heritagefutures 23:06, 24 January 2012 (PST)

I think so too; and where I can, I do. Perhaps you saw that I just replaced a liveauctioneers link with one to Westlicht, which I hadn't found the first time I edited the page. --Dustin McAmera 03:42, 25 January 2012 (PST)


Dustin, you're doing good work. But you're not using HotCat (it seems). As soon as I started to use it, I found that it helped. Now that I've used it a little more, I find that it helps a lot. Try it! (How you do this is explained here.) You'll be glad you did.

Oh, and, uh, [cough] . . . could you please take a look at Ernemann Kino I? This (unsourced) piece defeats me, perhaps in part because it's an hour past my bedtime. -- Hoarier 07:42, 6 February 2012 (PST)

I have hung back from HotCat because it would be my first gadget, and I'm not sure I want it there if there's only going to be a short flurry of this stuff. I'll give it a try some time.
As for the Ernemann Kino, you found it... :p (I'm still trying to kick myself into going back to Voigtländer).

mamiya 645super..etc

Thanks for updating the page re the various system parts. I started it but was a bit lazy and never got around to finish it. Was hoping you noticed it and felt the urge to update it! ;) Plus you most likely know the system better since you own the camera system. Looks like most of the major and a few minor MF camera systems now have decent system parts info. What is left is maybe the Hassalblad H series... but I have yet to even start anything specific on it other than a single sentence. --Tkmedia (talk) 18:55, 25 August 2013 (PDT)

Thanks (and sorry for taking over your edit!) I confess I didn't know the limits of what there was until I looked the system up. There are more lenses than I knew about, at both ends of the scale. I guess they must have been very expensive and not many sold, so you don't see them for sale now. Good luck with Hasselblad: I know very little about them.

Cheers! --Dustin McAmera (talk) 06:41, 26 August 2013 (PDT)

Error to edit correction

I have a Mercury one with a sticker on it that says "Made in Belguim by Gevaert for Universal Camera Corporation N.Y. USA", but now that you pointed out the error, I think this must be a sticker from a roll of film. Thank You

Ok! Thanks! --Dustin McAmera (talk) 06:35, 26 August 2013 (PDT)

<CPO> <EP> Latin or Katakana

Latin or Katakana <Katakana> marked <CPO> <EP> was the normal engraving during the C.P.O. office period of US Allied Army Occupied Japan 1947-1950 or M.I.O.J. to some. <Katakana> is a very rare mark, which says in Japanese <C.P.O.> and the camera was made only for Export production and was NOT too be Taxed! You can think of it as = to the <EP> mark = Export Production, Not the often referred to incorrectly stated on eBay & other web sites as, thinking Exchange Post, or military store; which is really called Post Exchange! Truth be told all <EP> marked cameras were also sold in Military base stores world-wide , ordered by the C.P.O. division of US military occupied Japan, because they were NOT too be Taxed! That said <EP> products of all kinds of optics and metals, were also Exported without taxation to other areas of the world. The point here is <EP> marked cameras were not only sold in just military bases. <CPO> was the earlier 1947, 1948 marking and <EP> the later marking. <Katakana> C.P.O. is extremely rare, and those cameras so marked command respect and higher prices! Regards, Don - Eastwestphoto


Hello, thank you for the welcome. You're right I haven't quite figured out this site yet. Willy Hermann Neumann of Neumann & Heilemann was my grandfather. I'm trying to correct his name, because literally every single site has it listed incorrectly. I dont know what Mr. Heilemann's first name was (my mother doesn't remember either as she was 4 when her father Willy Neumann passed away) but I know it wasn't Willy. Anyway, if you're able to help me correct the names I would really appreciate it! I dont know if me trying to figure out the editing feature is helping or hurting. Regards, Lani


You mentioned that Flickr was still the best place to host photos. Do you have an account there and a user name a person could search for to see some of your images? And possibly some of your cameras? Oh, and have you thought about updating that phrase "Flickr is still the best place to host?" Lately, they seem to be imploding. Also, I find Ipernity to be just like Flickr back when it just worked and that site seems to be running quite smoothly. Maybe not many people have joined as have Flickr, but small sites have to start somewhere. Kenny HaarFager (talk) 13:05, 15 August 2016 (CDT)

Here's my Flickr account (screen name is the same as here; the URL uses my original user name, century_graphic). I haven't uploaded anything to Flickr for a while though: the bike race on page 2 is the Tour de France 2014! Several of the cameras I've used a bit have their own albums, and there's one album called 'Cameras' with pictures a few more (mostly has pictures I took to put in the CW pool).
I don't know Ipernity. I'd have been happy without some of the changes they have made to Flickr since I joined it (videos, bottomless scrolling, autotags) but I can't get as angry about it as some people seem to. Certainly not bothered enough to go through the work of uploading everything somewhere else. What has annoyed me most has been the times they have changed the URLs of images and of their pages, so we had to find out how to embed Flickr pictures here all over again.
Cheers! Pete --Dustin McAmera (talk) 16:25, 15 August 2016 (CDT)
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