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The [[Ernemann]] Bob was produced from 1914 to the [[Ernemann]] merger into Zeiss Ikon in 1926. It came in a range of models and each of these; usually; in a range of formats.
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The '''Bob''' series are folding cameras for various sizes of both plates and rollfilm, made by [[Ernemann]] of Dresden from about 1902 until the company took part in the merger to create [[Zeiss Ikon]] in 1926.<ref name=McK>{{McKeown12}} p267-269.</ref> There is also a cylindrical cardboard camera for five 4.5x6cm plates simply named '[[Bob (cardboard)|Bob]]', from about 1900-03: McKeown shows an example.
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There were numerous folding models:
  
 
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|'''Plate Formats&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'''
 
|'''Plate Formats&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'''
 
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob 00|Ernemann Bob 00]]  
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob 00|Bob 00]]  
 
|1914-1925  
 
|1914-1925  
 
|6x9; 8.5x10
 
|6x9; 8.5x10
 
|6.5x9; 9x12
 
|6.5x9; 9x12
 
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob 0|Ernemann Bob 0]]  
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob 0|Bob 0]]  
 
|1911-1926
 
|1911-1926
 
|8x10.5; 8.5x14
 
|8x10.5; 8.5x14
 
|9x12; 9x14
 
|9x12; 9x14
 
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob I|Ernemann Bob I]]  
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob I|Bob I]]  
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|1922—? 
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|1903-26<ref name=McK/>
 
|4x6.5;  6.5x9;  8x10.5;  8.5x14&nbsp;&nbsp;
 
|4x6.5;  6.5x9;  8x10.5;  8.5x14&nbsp;&nbsp;
 
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob II|Ernemann Bob II]]
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob II|Bob II]]
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|1903-1926
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|1903-1926<ref name=McK/>
 
|8x10.5 <ref>chrome & black</ref>; 8.5x14; 10x12.5
 
|8x10.5 <ref>chrome & black</ref>; 8.5x14; 10x12.5
 
|9x12; 9x14; 9x12
 
|9x12; 9x14; 9x12
 
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob IIa|Ernemann Bob IIa]]
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob IIa|Bob IIa]]
 
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|8x10.5; 8.5x14
 
|8x10.5; 8.5x14
 
|9x12; 9x14
 
|9x12; 9x14
 
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||[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob III|Ernemann Bob III]]
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|valign=top|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob III|Bob III]]
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| 1904-10<br/>1925-6
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|6x9
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| 3½x4½ inch<br/>6x9
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| valign=top|9x12
 
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|Ernemann Bob IV
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|Bob IV
 
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob V|Ernemann Bob V]]  
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob V|Bob V]]  
 
|1924-1926
 
|1924-1926
 
|4x6.5; 6x6; 6x9; 6.5x11; 7.25x12.5
 
|4x6.5; 6x6; 6x9; 6.5x11; 7.25x12.5
 
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Ernemann Bob XV|Ernemann Bob XV]]&nbsp;
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob V stereo|Bob V stereo]]
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|1909-c1913<ref name=McK/>
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|4.5x10.7
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|4.5x10.7
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|[[Ernemann Bob#Bob XV|Bob XV]]&nbsp;
 
|1914—   
 
|1914—   
 
|4x6.5; 8.5x10
 
|4x6.5; 8.5x10
 
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|Bob XV stereo
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|1913-18<ref name=McK/>
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|4.5x10.7 cm
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=Ernemann Bob 00=
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==Bob 00==
 
*Type: folding camera
 
*Type: folding camera
 
*Format: various: 6x9 rollfilm, 6.5 x 9 plates, 8 x 10.5 rollfilm, 9 x 12 cm plates
 
*Format: various: 6x9 rollfilm, 6.5 x 9 plates, 8 x 10.5 rollfilm, 9 x 12 cm plates
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
 
*Years of production: 1914 to 1925<ref><i>Catalogue Photo-Sport</i> 1922, p. 17.</ref>
 
*Years of production: 1914 to 1925<ref><i>Catalogue Photo-Sport</i> 1922, p. 17.</ref>
 
*Lenses:  
 
*Lenses:  
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**Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat  
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**Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat (a [[Rapid Rectilinear]] type)
 
***1:6.8/105 mm
 
***1:6.8/105 mm
  
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==Bob 0==
  
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=Ernemann Bob 0=
 
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===Sample pictures===
 
 
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|rowspan=2|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/53230277@N07/5017122449/in/pool-camerawiki http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5017122449_7d12cfaa88_d.jpg]
 
|rowspan=2|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/53230277@N07/5017122449/in/pool-camerawiki http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5017122449_7d12cfaa88_d.jpg]
 
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|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/53230277@N07/5017730218/in/pool-camerawiki http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/5017730218_c1122718b6_m_d.jpg]
 
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|colspan=3|Sample of  <b>Ernemann Bob 0 8x10.5 (1914)</b>  with Ernemann Doppel-Anastigmat "VILAR" 1:6.8 12cm, CRONOS C <small>images by {{image author|Abdishev}}</small> {{with permission}}
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|colspan=3|<center>Ernemann Bob 0 8x10.5 (1914) with Ernemann Doppel-Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8 12cm and Cronos C shutter<br/><small>images by {{image author|Abdishev}}</small> {{with permission}}</center>
 
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*Type: folding camera
 
*Type: folding camera
 
*Format: various: 8x10.5 cm rollfilm, 9x12 cm plates; 8x14 cm rollfilm, 9x14 cm plates
 
*Format: various: 8x10.5 cm rollfilm, 9x12 cm plates; 8x14 cm rollfilm, 9x14 cm plates
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
 
*Years of production: 8x10.5 type 1911-1926; 8x14 type 1917-1926<ref><i>Catalogue Photo-Sport</i> 1922, p. 17.</ref>
 
*Years of production: 8x10.5 type 1911-1926; 8x14 type 1917-1926<ref><i>Catalogue Photo-Sport</i> 1922, p. 17.</ref>
 
*Lenses:  
 
*Lenses:  
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***Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8, 165mm
 
***Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8, 165mm
 
***Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8, 165mm
 
***Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8, 165mm
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*Viewfinder: Reflex finder
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*Viewfinder: [[brilliant finder]]
 
*Focusing: by sliding bed, without gears
 
*Focusing: by sliding bed, without gears
 
*Front shift: horizontal & vertical
 
*Front shift: horizontal & vertical
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**8x14 type: 18 cm extended; 4.6x11.8x24 cm; 1.150 kg
 
**8x14 type: 18 cm extended; 4.6x11.8x24 cm; 1.150 kg
  
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==Bob I==
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The '''Bob I''' is a folding camera for roll film. Vertical and horizontal movements of the front standard are possible with this camera. It was made for different film sizes.
  
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=Ernemann Bob I=
 
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The '''[[Ernemann]] Bob I''' was a folding camera for roll film. Vertical and horizontal movements of the front standard were possible with this camera. It was made for different film sizes.
 
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===Sample Pictures===
 
 
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|image_text=Ernemann Bob I, 127 film, with Detektiv Aplanat f/6.8
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|image_text=Bob I, 127 film, with Detektiv Aplanat f/6.8<br/>and radial-lever focusing
 
|image_by= Dustin McAmera
 
|image_by= Dustin McAmera
 
|image_rights= with permission
 
|image_rights= with permission
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|image= http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4933799607_215d5c59de.jpg
 
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|image_text= Ernemann Bob I, 8.5x14 format with Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 150mm
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|image_text= Bob I, 8.5x14 format with Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 150mm<br/>and rack-and-pinion focusing
 
|image_by= Dirk HR Spennemann
 
|image_by= Dirk HR Spennemann
 
|image_rights= with permission
 
|image_rights= with permission
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|image_source= http://www.flickr.com/photos/bordsenius/3629827184/in/pool-camerawiki/
 
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|image= http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3316/3629827184_e4c9069546.jpg
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|image_text= Ernemann Bob I
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|image_text= Bob I
 
|image_by= Stig Bordsenius
 
|image_by= Stig Bordsenius
 
|image_rights= with permission
 
|image_rights= with permission
 
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===Specifications===
 
===Specifications===
 
*Type: folding camera
 
*Type: folding camera
 
*Format: various: 4x6.5,  6.5x9, 8x10.5, [[Postcard format|122]] (8.5x14 [[Postcard format]])
 
*Format: various: 4x6.5,  6.5x9, 8x10.5, [[Postcard format|122]] (8.5x14 [[Postcard format]])
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
 
*Years of production: 1914 to 1926<ref><i>Catalogue Photo-Sport</i> 1922, p. 18.</ref>
 
*Years of production: 1914 to 1926<ref><i>Catalogue Photo-Sport</i> 1922, p. 18.</ref>
 
*Lenses:  
 
*Lenses:  
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***1:6.8, 135mm
 
***1:6.8, 135mm
 
***1:6.8, 165mm
 
***1:6.8, 165mm
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**Goerz Dagor  
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**[[Goerz]] [[Dagor]]
 
***1:6.8, 80mm
 
***1:6.8, 80mm
 
***1:6.8, 105mm
 
***1:6.8, 105mm
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***1:6.3, 135mm
 
***1:6.3, 135mm
 
***1:6.3, 150mm
 
***1:6.3, 150mm
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*Shutter:  
 
*Shutter:  
 
**Ernemann two blade shutter with speeds 1/25 to 1/100 sec.
 
**Ernemann two blade shutter with speeds 1/25 to 1/100 sec.
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=Ernemann Bob II=
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==Bob II==
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The Bob II was produced from 1903 to 1926. It is similar to Bob I, but with double extension. A great number of shutter/lens combinations was offered. The Bob II (also named Bob IIa in catalogs of 1912-1913) was produced in three sizes: 10x12.5; 8x10.5 (chrome) & 8x10.5 (black); 8.5x14. The camera was also sold by [[Stöckig]] as “Union XXVI” (1903-c1906)
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The [[Ernemann]] Bob II ware produced from 1903 to 1926. Similar to Bob I, but with double extension. Great number of shutter/lens combinations offered. The Bob II (also named Bob IIa in catalogs of 1912-1913) ware produced in 3 main sizes: 10x12.5; 8x10.5 (chrome) & 8x10.5 (black); 8.5x14.
 
  
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===Sample pictures===
 
 
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|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/53230277@N07/5029808922/in/pool-camerawiki http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5029808922_27e5548517_n.jpg]
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|colspan=3|Sample of  <b>Ernemann Bob II 8x10.5 (c1912-1913)</b>  with Ernemann Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8 No.1 (135mm) <small>images by {{image author|Abdishev}}</small> {{with permission}}
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|colspan=2|<center>Ernemann Bob II 8x10.5 (c1912-1913) with Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8 No.1 (135mm)<br/><small>images by {{image author|Abdishev}}</small> {{with permission}}</center>
 
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*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with 2 round posts (1903-c1906); or chromed U shape (c1906-1909).
 
*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with 2 round posts (1903-c1906); or chromed U shape (c1906-1909).
 
*Format: 10x12.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate, also 8x10.5 Premofilms
 
*Format: 10x12.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate, also 8x10.5 Premofilms
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]], also sold by [[Stöckig]] as “Union XXVI” (1903-c1906)
 
 
*Years of production: 1903-1909
 
*Years of production: 1903-1909
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*Lenses types:  
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*Lenses:  
 
**Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
 
**Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
 
**Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 135mm
 
**Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 135mm
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*Front shift: vertical and horizontal front shift
 
*Front shift: vertical and horizontal front shift
 
*Dimensions & weight: 36 cm extended; 5x12x20 cm; 1.000 kg
 
*Dimensions & weight: 36 cm extended; 5x12x20 cm; 1.000 kg
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|image= http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/5029191817_d3f60bb8a5_d.jpg
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|image_text= Ernemann Bob II 8x10.5 (c1912-1913) with Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8 No.1 (135mm)
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|image_by= Abdishev
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===Specifications for 8x10.5 & 8.5x14 (1909-c1913)===
 
===Specifications for 8x10.5 & 8.5x14 (1909-c1913)===
 
*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with chromed U shaped posts.
 
*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with chromed U shaped posts.
 
*Format: 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate; after c1911 also 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate
 
*Format: 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate; after c1911 also 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
 
*Years of production: 1909-c1913, same as Bob IIa of c1911-c1913
 
*Years of production: 1909-c1913, same as Bob IIa of c1911-c1913
 
*Lenses types:
 
*Lenses types:
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*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with black U shaped posts.
 
*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with black U shaped posts.
 
*Format: 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate; 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate
 
*Format: 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate; 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
 
*Years of production: c1913-1926
 
*Years of production: c1913-1926
 
*Lenses types:
 
*Lenses types:
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**8.5x14 type: 34 cm extended; 4.5x12x24 cm; 1.100 kg
 
**8.5x14 type: 34 cm extended; 4.5x12x24 cm; 1.100 kg
  
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=Ernemann Bob IIa=
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==Bob IIa==
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===Sample pictures===
 
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Sample of Ernemann Bob IIa with Ernemann Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8 lens
 
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===Specifications===
 
===Specifications===
 
*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with chromed U shaped posts.
 
*Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with chromed U shaped posts.
 
*Format: 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate; after 1911 also 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate
 
*Format: 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate; after 1911 also 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
 
*Years of production: 1911-1913, same as Bob II of 1909-1913
 
*Years of production: 1911-1913, same as Bob II of 1909-1913
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*Lenses types:
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*Lenses:
 
**8x10.5 type:  
 
**8x10.5 type:  
 
***Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
 
***Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
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**8.5x14 type: 34 cm extended; 4.5x12x24 cm; 1.100 kg
 
**8.5x14 type: 34 cm extended; 4.5x12x24 cm; 1.100 kg
  
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=Ernemann Bob III=
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==Bob III==
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*Type: folding camera
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The original Bob III, made from 1904, is for 9x12 cm plates, or quarter-plate exposures (3½x4½ inch or 8.3x10.8 cm) on roll-film. An Ernemann catalogue states that the construction is mostly of aluminium, with American leather covering, leather bellows, and nickel fittings.<ref name=Cat>Catalogue [http://www.cineressources.net/consultationPdf/web/o000/256.pdf ''Ernemann Cameras sind die Besten; Anleitung; Liste No. 91''], p18. The cataloge is undated, but describes the Bob III (1904-10) as new; at [http://www.cineressources.net/recherche_t.php Ciné-Ressources].</ref> The camera has [[triple-extension]] bellows, allowing the use of the rear group of any of the symmetrical lenses on its own (see the article on [[Combinable lens|separable lenses]]), and has front rise and shift. It has a brilliant finder, which rotates for horizontal or vertical use of the camera.
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*Format: various, 6x9
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Another folding camera named Bob III was made in the 1920s, in the last years before Ernemann became part of Zeiss Ikon. This is for 6x9 cm exposures on roll-film.
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
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*Years of production: 1924-1926
 
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*Lenses:
 
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** Ernemann Erid f8/105
 
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*Shutter:
 
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**[[Chronos]]-A shutter
 
  
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===Specifications===
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* Ernemann f/6.8 [[Rapid Rectilinear|Detectiv Aplanat]]
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* Ernemann f/6.8 or f/5.5 Doppel-anastigmat
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* [[Goerz]] f/6.8 Doppel-anastigmat Serie III No. 0
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* [[Voigtländer]] Collinear III No.2
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| valign=top|Ernemann Erid 10.5 cm f/8
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| 'Bob' T and I
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==Bob V==
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=Ernemann Bob V=
 
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===Sample pictures===
 
 
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|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/53230277@N07/4979071577/in/pool-camerawiki http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/4979071577_8fb810f5bd_m_d.jpg]
 
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|colspan=3 align="center" |Example of '''Ernemann Bob V 4x6.5''' (1924) with Ernemann Doppel-Anastigmat 1:6.8 75mm
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===Specification===
 
===Specification===
 
*Type: folding roll-film camera
 
*Type: folding roll-film camera
 
*Format: 4x6.5; 6x6; 6x9; 6.5x11; 7.25x12.5 cm
 
*Format: 4x6.5; 6x6; 6x9; 6.5x11; 7.25x12.5 cm
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*Manufacturer: [[Ernemann]]
 
 
*Years of production: 1924-1926
 
*Years of production: 1924-1926
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*Lenses:  
 
**Ernemann Ernastigmat 1:6.8 (only for 4x6.5 & 6x6)
 
**Ernemann Ernastigmat 1:6.8 (only for 4x6.5 & 6x6)
 
**Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8
 
**Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8
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**Ernemann Ernotar 1:4.5
 
**Ernemann Ernotar 1:4.5
 
**Zeiss Tessar 1:4.5
 
**Zeiss Tessar 1:4.5
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*Lenses focal lenght:
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*Lens focal lengths:
 
**4x6.5 & 6x6 f=75mm
 
**4x6.5 & 6x6 f=75mm
 
**6x9 f=105mm; 1:4.5 & 1:4.3 lenses with f=120mm
 
**6x9 f=105mm; 1:4.5 & 1:4.3 lenses with f=120mm
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*Front shift: Vertical with micrometer screw, Horizontal front shift.
 
*Front shift: Vertical with micrometer screw, Horizontal front shift.
  
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===Specifications===
 
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*Type: folding camera<ref>The Photo Minature 1914</ref>
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*Format: 45x107 mm
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* Years of production: 1909-13
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** Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8
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** Em Anastigmat 1:7.2
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** Ernon Anastigmat 1:6.8
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** [[Goerz]] Dagor 1:6.8
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** Doppel-anastigmat 1:6
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** Auto sector
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==Bob XV==
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===Specifications===
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*Type: folding camera<ref>The Photo Miniature 1914</ref>
 
*Format: various, 4x6.5, 8.5x10
 
*Format: various, 4x6.5, 8.5x10
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*Years of production: 1914—
 
*Years of production: 1914—
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*Viewfinder: brilliant type
 
*Viewfinder: brilliant type
  
  
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*[http://thecamerasite.lauro.fi/03_Folder_Cameras/Pages/ernemann.htm Bob I, small variant] at [http://thecamerasite.lauro.fi Camera Site]
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*[https://www.photo.net/forums/topic/317607-please-help-to-identify-ernemann-folding-camera/ Forum discussion] about bigger variant at [https://www.photo.net/ Photo.net]
  
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*[http://photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00B0YH discussion] about bigger variant at photo.net [http://photo.net/classic-cameras-forum]
 
  
 
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The Bob series are folding cameras for various sizes of both plates and rollfilm, made by Ernemann of Dresden from about 1902 until the company took part in the merger to create Zeiss Ikon in 1926.[1] There is also a cylindrical cardboard camera for five 4.5x6cm plates simply named 'Bob', from about 1900-03: McKeown shows an example.

There were numerous folding models:

Model  Production   Rollfilm Formats    Plate Formats   
Bob 00 1914-1925 6x9; 8.5x10 6.5x9; 9x12
Bob 0 1911-1926 8x10.5; 8.5x14 9x12; 9x14
Bob I 1903-26[1] 4x6.5; 6.5x9; 8x10.5; 8.5x14  
Bob II 1903-1926[1] 8x10.5 [2]; 8.5x14; 10x12.5 9x12; 9x14; 9x12
Bob IIa 8x10.5; 8.5x14 9x12; 9x14
Bob III 1904-10
1925-6 		3½x4½ inch
6x9 		9x12
Bob IV
Bob V 1924-1926 4x6.5; 6x6; 6x9; 6.5x11; 7.25x12.5
Bob V stereo 1909-c1913[1] 4.5x10.7 4.5x10.7
Bob XV  1914— 4x6.5; 8.5x10
Bob XV stereo 1913-18[1] 4.5x10.7 cm


Bob 00

  • Type: folding camera
  • Format: various: 6x9 rollfilm, 6.5 x 9 plates, 8 x 10.5 rollfilm, 9 x 12 cm plates
  • Years of production: 1914 to 1925[3]
  • Lenses:

Bob 0

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Ernemann Bob 0 8x10.5 (1914) with Ernemann Doppel-Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8 12cm and Cronos C shutter
images by Abdishev (Image rights)

Specifications

  • Type: folding camera
  • Format: various: 8x10.5 cm rollfilm, 9x12 cm plates; 8x14 cm rollfilm, 9x14 cm plates
  • Years of production: 8x10.5 type 1911-1926; 8x14 type 1917-1926[4]
  • Lenses:
    • 8x10.5 type
      • Ernemann Doppel Objectiv 1:11
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8, 125mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8, 135mm
    • 8x14 type
      • Ernemann Doppel Objectiv 1:11
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8, 165mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8, 165mm
  • Viewfinder: brilliant finder
  • Focusing: by sliding bed, without gears
  • Front shift: horizontal & vertical
  • Dimensions & weight:
    • 8x10.5 type: 15 cm extended; 3.8x11.5x20.5 cm; 0.550 kg
    • 8x14 type: 18 cm extended; 4.6x11.8x24 cm; 1.150 kg

Bob I

The Bob I is a folding camera for roll film. Vertical and horizontal movements of the front standard are possible with this camera. It was made for different film sizes.

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Bob I, 127 film, with Detektiv Aplanat f/6.8
and radial-lever focusing
image by Dustin McAmera (Image rights)
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Bob I, 8.5x14 format with Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 150mm
and rack-and-pinion focusing
image by Dirk HR Spennemann (Image rights)


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Bob I
image by Stig Bordsenius (Image rights)

Specifications

  • Type: folding camera
  • Format: various: 4x6.5, 6.5x9, 8x10.5, 122 (8.5x14 Postcard format)
  • Years of production: 1914 to 1926[5]
  • Lenses:
    • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat
      • 1:6.8, 80mm
      • 1:6.8, 105mm
      • 1:6.8, 135mm
      • 1:6.8, 165mm
    • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernar
      • 1:6.8, 80mm
    • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar
      • 1:6.8, 105mm
      • 1:6.8, 135mm
      • 1:6.8, 165mm
    • Goerz Dagor
      • 1:6.8, 80mm
      • 1:6.8, 105mm
      • 1:6.8, 135mm
      • 1:6.8, 150mm
    • Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar
      • 1:6.3, 90mm with 4 elements in 3 groups
      • 1:6.3, 120mm
      • 1:6.3, 135mm
      • 1:6.3, 150mm
  • Shutter:
    • Ernemann two blade shutter with speeds 1/25 to 1/100 sec.
    • Ernemann with speeds 1/25 to 1/300 sec.
  • Viewfinder: brilliant type


Bob II

The Bob II was produced from 1903 to 1926. It is similar to Bob I, but with double extension. A great number of shutter/lens combinations was offered. The Bob II (also named Bob IIa in catalogs of 1912-1913) was produced in three sizes: 10x12.5; 8x10.5 (chrome) & 8x10.5 (black); 8.5x14. The camera was also sold by Stöckig as “Union XXVI” (1903-c1906)

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Ernemann Bob II 8x10.5 (c1912-1913) with Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8 No.1 (135mm)
images by Abdishev (Image rights)

Specifications for 10x12.5 (1903-1909)

  • Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with 2 round posts (1903-c1906); or chromed U shape (c1906-1909).
  • Format: 10x12.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate, also 8x10.5 Premofilms
  • Years of production: 1903-1909
  • Lenses:
    • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
    • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 135mm
    • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:5.4, 135mm
    • Goerz Doppel Anastigmat 1:6.8, Serie III, No.1
    • Steinheil Orthostigmat 1:6.8, No.4
    • Steinheil Unofokal 1:6, No.3
    • Collinear Serie III, No.3
    • Zeiss Tessar Serie IIb, No.5
    • Rodenstock Imagonal 1:6, No.3
  • Shutter: Bob-Sektor
  • Viewfinder:
    • Newton finder (1903-c1906)
    • Brilliant type with cover (c1906-1909)
  • Focusing: by rack & pinion
  • Front shift: vertical and horizontal front shift
  • Dimensions & weight: 36 cm extended; 5x12x20 cm; 1.000 kg
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Ernemann Bob II 8x10.5 (c1912-1913) with Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8 No.1 (135mm)
image by Abdishev (Image rights)

Specifications for 8x10.5 & 8.5x14 (1909-c1913)

  • Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with chromed U shaped posts.
  • Format: 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate; after c1911 also 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate
  • Years of production: 1909-c1913, same as Bob IIa of c1911-c1913
  • Lenses types:
    • 8x10.5 type:
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
      • Ernemann Anastigmat 1:7.2, 135mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 135mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernon 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Goerz Dagor 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 135mm
    • 8.5x14 type:
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
      • Ernemann Anastigmat 1:7.2, 150mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 150mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernon 1:6.8, 150mm
      • Goerz Dagor 1:6.8, 150mm
      • Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 150mm
  • Shutter:
    • Bob-Sektor
    • Automat
    • Auto-Sektoren
  • Viewfinder: brilliant type
  • Focusing: by rack & pinion
  • Front shift: vertical and horizontal front shift
  • Dimensions & weight:
    • 8x10.5 type: 25 cm extended; 4x11.5x20.5 cm; 1.000 kg
    • 8.5x14 type: 34 cm extended; 4.5x12x24 cm; 1.100 kg

Specifications for 8x10.5 & 8.5x14 (c1913-1926)

  • Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with black U shaped posts.
  • Format: 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate; 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate
  • Years of production: c1913-1926
  • Lenses types:
    • 8x10.5 type:
      • Ernemann Ernastigmat 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Ernemann Anastigmat Ernar 1:6.3, 135mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 135mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernon 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Goerz Dagor 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 135mm
    • 8.5x14 type:
      • Ernemann Ernastigmat 1:6.8, 165mm
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8, 165mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8, 165mm
      • Ernemann Anastigmat Ernar 1:6.3, 165mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 150mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernon 1:6.8, 150mm
      • Goerz Dagor 1:6.8, 150mm
      • Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 150mm
  • Shutter:
    • Automat
    • Auto-Sektoren
  • Viewfinder: brilliant type
  • Focusing: by rack & pinion
  • Front shift: vertical and horizontal front shift
  • Dimensions & weight:
    • 8x10.5 type: 25 cm extended; 4x11.5x20.5 cm; 1.000 kg
    • 8.5x14 type: 34 cm extended; 4.5x12x24 cm; 1.100 kg

Bob IIa

Specifications

  • Type: folding roll-film & plates camera, lens stand with chromed U shaped posts.
  • Format: 8.5x14 roll-film, 9x14 plate; after 1911 also 8x10.5 roll-film, 9x12 plate
  • Years of production: 1911-1913, same as Bob II of 1909-1913
  • Lenses:
    • 8x10.5 type:
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
      • Ernemann Anastigmat 1:7.2, 135mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 135mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernon 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Goerz Dagor 1:6.8, 135mm
      • Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 135mm
    • 8.5x14 type:
      • Ernemann Detektiv Aplanat 1:6.8
      • Ernemann Anastigmat 1:7.2, 150mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat 1:6, 150mm
      • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernon 1:6.8, 150mm
      • Goerz Dagor 1:6.8, 150mm
      • Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3, 150mm
  • Shutter:
    • Bob-Sektor
    • Automat
    • Auto-Sektoren
  • Viewfinder: brilliant type
  • Focusing: by rack & pinion
  • Front shift: vertical and horizontal front shift
  • Dimensions & weight:
    • 8x10.5 type: 25 cm extended; 4x11.5x20.5 cm; 1.000 kg
    • 8.5x14 type: 34 cm extended; 4.5x12x24 cm; 1.100 kg

Bob III

The original Bob III, made from 1904, is for 9x12 cm plates, or quarter-plate exposures (3½x4½ inch or 8.3x10.8 cm) on roll-film. An Ernemann catalogue states that the construction is mostly of aluminium, with American leather covering, leather bellows, and nickel fittings.[6] The camera has triple-extension bellows, allowing the use of the rear group of any of the symmetrical lenses on its own (see the article on separable lenses), and has front rise and shift. It has a brilliant finder, which rotates for horizontal or vertical use of the camera. Another folding camera named Bob III was made in the 1920s, in the last years before Ernemann became part of Zeiss Ikon. This is for 6x9 cm exposures on roll-film.

Specifications

Years:[1] 1904-10 1925-6
Type: folding camera
Format: 9x12 plate, 3¼x4¼ inch roll-film 6x9 roll-film
Lenses: Ernemann Erid 10.5 cm f/8
Shutter: Cronos-A 'Bob' T and I

Bob V

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Bob V 4x6.5 (1924) with Ernemann Doppel-Anastigmat 1:6.8 75mm

images by Abdishev (Image rights)

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Bob V 6x9 (1924) with Ernemann Doppel-Anastigmat "Vilar" 105mm 1:6.8

Images by Süleyman Demir (Image rights)

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Bob V 6.5x11(1924) with Ernemann Doppel-Anastigmat 1:6.8 F=12.0 cm.
image by Jaap Schelvis (Image rights)

Specification

  • Type: folding roll-film camera
  • Format: 4x6.5; 6x6; 6x9; 6.5x11; 7.25x12.5 cm
  • Years of production: 1924-1926
  • Lenses:
    • Ernemann Ernastigmat 1:6.8 (only for 4x6.5 & 6x6)
    • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Vilar 1:6.8
    • Ernemann Doppel Anastigmat Ernar 1:6.3
    • Zeiss Tessar 1:6.3
    • Ernemann Ernoplast 1:4.5
    • Ernemann Ernotar 1:4.5
    • Zeiss Tessar 1:4.5
  • Lens focal lengths:
    • 4x6.5 & 6x6 f=75mm
    • 6x9 f=105mm; 1:4.5 & 1:4.3 lenses with f=120mm
    • 6.5x11 f=120mm
    • 7.25x12.5 f=135mm
  • Shutter:
  • Viewfinder: brilliant type
  • Focusing: radial-lever
  • Front shift: Vertical with micrometer screw, Horizontal front shift.

Bob V stereo

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Bob V stereo with Detectiv Aplanat lenses
(missing viewfinder)
image by Geoff Harrisson (Image rights)

Specifications

  • Type: folding-bed stereo camera for plates or rollfilm.
  • Format: 45x107 mm
  • Years of production: 1909-13
  • Lenses:
    • Detectiv Aplanat 1:6.8
    • Em Anastigmat 1:7.2
    • Ernon Anastigmat 1:6.8
    • Goerz Dagor 1:6.8
    • Doppel-anastigmat 1:6
  • Shutter:


Bob XV

Specifications

  • Type: folding camera[7]
  • Format: various, 4x6.5, 8.5x10
  • Years of production: 1914—
  • Lenses:
  • Shutter:
  • Viewfinder: brilliant type


German, French & Italian Cameras using 127 film
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y 		3×4 rigid Dreivier | Futuro | Gewirette | Kolibri
Parvola | Pupille | Ranca | Reporter | Puck
folding Baby Ikonta | Baldi | Dolly | Goldi
Gucki | Ingo | Korelle | Makinette
Metharette | Perkeo | Vollenda
4x4 Navax | Paxina Electromatic | Rothlar
4x6.5 Bella | Billy | Bob | Dolly | Goldi
Gucki | Korelle | Panta | Parvola
Piccolette | Rio | Ultrix
TLR see German TLRs
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e 		3×4 rigid Fotobaby | Lynx | Super-Boy
folding Derby-Lux | Elax
pseudo TLR Auteuil | Longchamp
4×4 rigid Impera | Marly | Pari-Fex | Rubi-Fex | Top
4×6.5 rigid Photo-Magic
I
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y 		3x4 Comet | Comet III | Cometa | Euralux
Ibis | Maxima | Piccolo | Tanit
4x4 Comet | Euralux | Ibis
4x6.5 & other Alfa | Delta | Relex | Rolet | Rondine

Notes

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 McKeown, James M. and Joan C. McKeown's Price Guide to Antique and Classic Cameras, 12th Edition, 2005-2006. USA, Centennial Photo Service, 2004. ISBN 0-931838-40-1 (hardcover). ISBN 0-931838-41-X (softcover). p267-269.
  2. ↑ chrome & black
  3. ↑ Catalogue Photo-Sport 1922, p. 17.
  4. ↑ Catalogue Photo-Sport 1922, p. 17.
  5. ↑ Catalogue Photo-Sport 1922, p. 18.
  6. ↑ Catalogue Ernemann Cameras sind die Besten; Anleitung; Liste No. 91, p18. The cataloge is undated, but describes the Bob III (1904-10) as new; at Ciné-Ressources.
  7. ↑ The Photo Miniature 1914

Links

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