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Sollinette (folding) models
Just to clarify matters.
According to the German book "Agfa geschichte eines deutschen weltunternehmens von 1867 bis 1997" there are 2 main models, Solinette and Sollinette II. Every main model has 4 sub models, depending on shutter/lens combinations. So there are 8 different models of the folding Solinette.
According to the book the 2 main models only differed in details.
That's interesting news. Thanks for sharing.
I've trawled the internet looking for information, and can find nothing solid; just rumours there was a Solinette/Solinette I. In such circumstances, I normally search for instruction manuals and look at photos. The only manual I can find is for the Solinette II, and this specifically states the Apotar/Prontor SV spec., with no caveats. All the pictures I've seen are of Solinette IIs, and I've found 3 variations of the II (Apotar/SV, Apotar/SVS, Silonar/Compur).
If there were 4 sub models, what would the missing combination be? If there are 2 lenses, and 3 shutters used, then the number of possible combinations is 6. I guess if you don't combine the lowest spec., with the highest (i.e. Solinar/SV and Apotar/Compur), then that gives 4 options?
Sadly, books often have errors, and it seems unlikely that 5 out of 8 cameras are missing?
I am trying to find logical solutions: often a mistake because manufactures were often not logical.
--Johnbear (talk) 01:25, 18 May 2016 (CDT)
John, I'm at work now, will have a look in that book in the evening again and list the different models here.
The book I mentioned has the most complete listing of Agfa cameras that I ever have seen.
Hanskerensky (talk) 05:27, 18 May 2016 (CDT)
Cool. I appreciate it. Mysteries need to be solved!--Johnbear (talk) 08:14, 18 May 2016 (CDT)
Ok, here goes,
From the German book "Agfa Geschichte eines deutschen Weltunternehmens von 1867 bis 1997"
Page 205 and 206
Agfa Nr | Name in book | Lens | Shutter | Remarks |
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2030/230 | Solinette Compur RMXV | Solinar 3.5/50 | Compur RMXV | Guess the R in RMVX means Rapid |
2030/216 | Solinette Prontor SV | Apotar 3.5/50 | Prontor SV | |
2030/235 | Solinette Prontor SVS | Apotar 3.5/50 | Prontor SVS | |
2030/214 | Solinette Compur RMX | Solinar 3.5/45 | Synchro-Compur | |
2101/337 | Solinette USA | Color Apotar 3.5/45 | Prontor SVS | Exportmodel for USA |
2031/216 | Solinette II Solinar | Solinar 3.5/50 | Synchro-Compur | |
2031/235 | Solinette II Prontor SVS | Solinar 3.5/50 | Prontor-SVS | |
2030/216 | Solinette II Apotar | Apotar 3.5/50 | Prontor SV |
So 5 sub-types of the Solinette and 3 sub-types of the Solinette II
Intriguing are the 2 types with 45mm lenses. Guess the formulae is probably the same, just another name. Hope we discover actual samples.
Also note that Nr.2030/216 appears twice in this listing ! Error in the book or just the same camera with another name ??
Hanskerensky (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2016 (CDT)
Fabulous stuff ... I shall study it. --Johnbear (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2016 (CDT)
Final comment ... Hans ... so you presumably speak Dutch, German, and English. Wow!!! We English struggle with English. --Johnbear (talk) 16:49, 18 May 2016 (CDT)