Talk:Piccolette

Serial numbers

Here are some data I have collected. Am cleaning up and deleting files of stuff I no longer am interested in. Thought I share/archive here…

Unlike the number on the film carrier, which seems stamped/punched in, the body serial number of the Piccolette was engraved, but in a very fine and shallow fashion. Even limited corrosion seems to have obliterated part or all of the serial number on a great number of cameras. The last three digits of the serial number are repeated and punched into the reinforcement bar of the film carrier.

TYPE SN Carrier Lens/Shutter Ref

OLD

CN 183485 485 Nettar/Derval http://www.flickr.com/photos/coleccionandocamaras/5569496652/

CN 239591 591 Nettar/Derval http://www.flickr.com/photos/31324280@N02/7523428342/ (fulvue)

CN 266759 759 Achromat/Acro http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrs_logic/4656949792/

CN 282213 213 Nettar/Derval Spennemann

CN 295734 734 Nettar/Derval http://www.flickr.com/photos/dimatsvetkov/5518570320/ (Dima Tsvetkov)

CN 300618 618 Achromat/Acro eBay USA (October 2012);

CN 328814 814 Piccar/Piccar http://www.flickr.com/photos/50699409@N07/6633643935/ (Gerard Vogels)

CN 335152 152 Piccar/Piccar http://www.flickr.com/photos/gianlukalta/4237922797/ (gionlukalta)

ZI 661720 xxx Piccar/Piccar http://www.flickr.com/photos/arkku/864057433/ (Kimmo Kulovesi)

CN xxxxxx 406 Taronar/Compur http://cameracollector.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bellows&action=display&thread=4545

CN xxxx83 683 Achromat/Acro http://www.flickr.com/photos/guylordat/7735323040/

CN xx0007 xxx Nettar/Derval http://www.flickr.com/photos/juanapo/6063495866/ (Juan Francisco)

ZI M34300 xxx Tessar/Compur eBay Italy (October 2012);

Cheers --Heritagefutures (talk) 04:33, 17 April 2015 (CDT)

Pre-war Nettel Picolette

I have some doubts regarding the pre-war Piccolette supposedly made by Nettel in Sontheim. McKeown's latest edition is given as a reference (which I don't have), but in a previous edition the Piccolette is only listed under Contessa-Nettel made from 1919. If you look for any other reference, like pictures from auctions or old ads you'll find nothing. Before the merger with Contessa (Drexler & Nagel) Nettel had a portfolio of plate cameras (like the Deckrullo) but no experience with rollfilm. In contrast Contessa (Stuttgart) had the PIXIE (1912-1914 ?) in its portfolio, a camera with a very similar spec as the Piccolette... Early versions of the post-war Piccolette mention "Contessa Nettel - Stuttgart", why would the combined companies continue a Nettel-Sontheim design in Stuttgart?

Did anybody has further information or proof for the pre-war Nettel Piccolette...? If not I'd suggest to remove the section in the article or at least put a remark about the doubts in there...

Thanks Christoph