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*[[Talk:Mine Six/Archive 01|Archive 1]] (May–June 2006)
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==Earlier article history==
 
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For the earlier history of this article, please see [http://camerapedia.org/wiki?title=Takane_Mine_Six&action=history the history of "Takane Mine Six"]. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 11:02, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
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For the earlier history of this article, please see [http://camera-wiki.org/wiki?title=Takane_Mine_Six&action=history the history of "Takane Mine Six"]. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 11:02, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
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== Link to a picture ==
 
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I think that links pointing directly to a picture are too deep, even if the original page is credited. I have rearranged it a little. --[[User:Rebollo fr|Rebollo fr]] 13:21, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
 
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:I wouldn't argue with that. However, we now read for both: ''you can click on the picture to enlarge it''; for one, this is only true if you ask your browser to display the photo. This is typically achieved by ''right-''clicking the photo and choosing the relevant option -- of course impossible with a regular Apple mouse. In other words the article now expects the reader to have at least an elementary ability to use their own browser. In Wikipedia, such an expectation might be decried as "elitist" (groan) or similar. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 22:38, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
 
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::In both cases my browser (Firefox) opens the image in full size in a separate window, so I did not pay special attention. If you think that the behaviour can differ with other browsers, you can precise it in the link description. Maybe we can exceptionally insert a deep link if the picture is really hard to access for some users, in that case I would tend to put the link to the picture after the main URL, and explain why it is there (I'm leaving it to you because I do not know which one is concerned). --[[User:Rebollo fr|Rebollo fr]] 05:33, 15 May 2006 (EDT)
 
  
 
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:But yes: it says "Copal" all right. (I wonder why he'd say "Rectus".) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 06:20, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:But yes: it says "Copal" all right. (I wonder why he'd say "Rectus".) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 06:20, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
  
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==Can we have a revert war?==
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Maybe we could make only one entry with the book ズノーカメラ誕生, and the two chapters listed in a sub-list. Also, isn't it No 56 of Classic Camera Senka? --[[User:Rebollo fr|Rebollo fr]] 16:51, 7 June 2006 (EDT)
 
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On the latter: yes, you're right. Sorry about the mistake. And armed with this knowledge, I was able to buy a copy just today. On the former: yes, if you like. I really don't care about it either way, but if you'd like to do it I shan't object.
 
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It's an interesting idea: it reminds me of something I'd been thinking. Rather than either (a) endlessly repeating this bibliographical info about the Asahi Camera ad anthology or (b) endlessly citing a never-explained "McKeown", I wonder if it could be a good idea to have one or more pages for a descriptive, useful bibliography. Thus the entry fore the former might read
 
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<nowiki>*''[[Sources:Japanese#Showa10|Shōwa 10&ndash;40nen]]'' Items 912&ndash;3, 1619&ndash;21.</nowiki>
 
  
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And in <nowiki>[[Sources:Japanese#Showa10]]</nowiki>, something like:
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R fr, I'm sure [http://camera-wiki.org/wiki?title=Mine_Six&curid=4408&diff=52199&oldid=52197&rcid=47324 this edit] was well intended, but I don't much like it.
  
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Might you have misinterpreted my earlier (and deleted) message? That referred to an earlier problem (briefly, the problem that seems to be triggered by attempting to include jpegs with filenames that don't end jpg or jpeg). -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 10:01, 25 January 2008 (EST)
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<nowiki>=="Shōwa 10&ndash;40nen"==</nowiki>
 
  
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''Asahi Camera'' (アサヒカメラ) editorial staff. ''Shōwa 10&ndash;40nen kōkoku ni miru kokusan kamera no rekishi'' (昭和10〜40年広告にみる国産カメラの歴史, Japanese camera history as seen in advertisements, 1935&ndash;1965). Tokyo: Asahi Shinbunsha, 1994. ISBN 4-02-330312-7
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:My edit was well intended, but I made it in a rush and was inattentive. I didn't notice that the page was already fixed, sorry! I reverted myself with the "rollback" button.
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:--[[User:Rebollo fr|Rebollo fr]] 11:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)
  
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This large book, now (2006) out of print, blah blah blah. . . .
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::Self-reverted like a true gentilhomme! (Ah, good, this means I no longer feel under an obligation to ban you. [emoticon]) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 18:57, 25 January 2008 (EST)
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What do you think? [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 07:07, 9 June 2006 (EDT)
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:::Minor remark about the "rollback" button. The intuitive behaviour would be that it reverts your ''last'' edit. It doesn't do that: it reverts all the last edits by a single contributor. I got caught by that in the past, and I suspect you got caught too in [http://camera-wiki.org/wiki?title=Template:Japanese_Six_postwar_contents&diff=prev&oldid=52191 this edit]. It seems that there is no proper "revert" button, which is a shame. --[[User:Rebollo fr|Rebollo fr]] 07:30, 26 January 2008 (EST)
  
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:It is a good idea. You mention "Sources:Japanese" as a possible title, do you mean 'in Japanese language' or 'about Japanese cameras'? --[[User:Rebollo fr|Rebollo fr]] 08:22, 9 June 2006 (EDT)
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::::Ulp! Thanks for catching that. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 10:00, 26 January 2008 (EST)
  
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I hadn't thought about it.
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== Additional Sisley images now in CW pool ==
  
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I do think it would be a good idea to give bibliographical and other helpful details about a particular source in just one place, if that source is cited very often. (I haven't thought about what "very often" means.) I also think that at the one extreme it's not necessary to have one article per (often-cited) source, and at the other it's not a good idea to have them all in a single page. If a compromise between those two extremes is indeed a better idea, I haven't decided what that compromise might be. If there were one or more pages, I don't know what namespace they should go in -- indeed, I don't even know what namespaces are available. (There's "Camerapedia.org:", of course.) Rather, I was just throwing out an idea in its early stage, to see if there was any interest. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 11:02, 9 June 2006 (EDT)
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I just wanted to note that three images of a Sisley with Deep-C lens No. 25150 are now in the CW pool [http://www.flickr.com/photos/c_fluffy/3355995224/in/pool-camerawiki here] and following. --[[User:Voxphoto|Vox]] 15:49, 13 May 2011 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 18:05, 5 February 2012

Archives

Earlier article history

For the earlier history of this article, please see the history of "Takane Mine Six". -- Hoary 11:02, 14 May 2006 (EDT)

Different IIF for export?

We read (well, I wrote): "The Mine Six IIF, introduced in mid-1955, with an S-Kominar lens, was the first to have a coupled rangefinder.."

And that's what the book said.

Today I personally examined something calling itself a Mine Six IIF. It had a coupled rangefinder and a unit-focussing "Deep-C" lens. It came with an English-language manual -- incidentally, from Takane Kōgaku (yes, complete with macron) -- that referred to the Deep-C lens.

This doesn't correspond to the IIF as described here, or to anything else. -- Hoary 23:37, 1 June 2006 (EDT)

Here is a link to a Japanese dealer who sold a Mine Six IIF, with pictures. I have seen a similar camera for sale at a Yahoo Japan auction, with 1/200 top speed instead of 1/300. --Rebollo fr 08:31, 2 June 2006 (EDT)
Yes, that photo shows what I would have expected to see this morning. Another, minor difference: the camera this morning (check your email) has a very decorative sort of metal plate on the outside of the, um, the, what's it called? ... the door that opens so that the lens can pop out. -- Hoary 08:44, 2 June 2006 (EDT)

You might want to check this page for another Mine Six IIF (no. 59950) with Deep-C lens (no. 26257?). The seller mentions a Rectus shutter to 1/300, but I read "Copal" on the speed rim. --Rebollo fr 05:48, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

Good grief R fr, do you never sleep?!
But yes: it says "Copal" all right. (I wonder why he'd say "Rectus".) -- Hoary 06:20, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

Can we have a revert war?

R fr, I'm sure this edit was well intended, but I don't much like it.

Might you have misinterpreted my earlier (and deleted) message? That referred to an earlier problem (briefly, the problem that seems to be triggered by attempting to include jpegs with filenames that don't end jpg or jpeg). -- Hoary 10:01, 25 January 2008 (EST)

My edit was well intended, but I made it in a rush and was inattentive. I didn't notice that the page was already fixed, sorry! I reverted myself with the "rollback" button.
--Rebollo fr 11:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)
Self-reverted like a true gentilhomme! (Ah, good, this means I no longer feel under an obligation to ban you. [emoticon]) -- Hoary 18:57, 25 January 2008 (EST)
Minor remark about the "rollback" button. The intuitive behaviour would be that it reverts your last edit. It doesn't do that: it reverts all the last edits by a single contributor. I got caught by that in the past, and I suspect you got caught too in this edit. It seems that there is no proper "revert" button, which is a shame. --Rebollo fr 07:30, 26 January 2008 (EST)
Ulp! Thanks for catching that. -- Hoary 10:00, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Additional Sisley images now in CW pool

I just wanted to note that three images of a Sisley with Deep-C lens No. 25150 are now in the CW pool here and following. --Vox 15:49, 13 May 2011 (PDT)

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