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==Origin of Camera-wiki.org==
 
==Origin of Camera-wiki.org==
 
To be strictly accurate, Vox created a new Flickr group (its name changed a couple of times), and Flickrmailed invitations to anyone who seemed angry enough to take some kind of action. Steevithak had done some hard thinking about what steps would be involved, and in the new group he proposed a [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/discuss/72157625758671255/#comment72157625884964020 plan of action] which we basically followed to the letter.--[[User:Voxphoto|Vox]] 20:44, 26 March 2011 (PDT)
 
To be strictly accurate, Vox created a new Flickr group (its name changed a couple of times), and Flickrmailed invitations to anyone who seemed angry enough to take some kind of action. Steevithak had done some hard thinking about what steps would be involved, and in the new group he proposed a [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/discuss/72157625758671255/#comment72157625884964020 plan of action] which we basically followed to the letter.--[[User:Voxphoto|Vox]] 20:44, 26 March 2011 (PDT)
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==Assertions lacking evidence, and opinon==
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I've just now [http://camera-wiki.org/index.php?title=Camera-wiki.org%3ACamerapedia&action=historysubmit&diff=99144&oldid=99122 made some changes to this article], but I have left in the parts that worry me the most. Here they are:
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:''after incidents of wrong user attribution of wiki texts and unauthorized image uploads - both reverted by Wikia after protests''
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I'm not surprised to hear of this. But such an assertion needs indisputable evidence. Let's have it.
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:''Camerapedia is [...] on thin ice since it started commercial mode without having a valid permission for most of its Flickr image links.''
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Putting aside for now the allegation about "thin ice", the claim that the site lacks "valid permission for most of its Flickr image links" is a very serious one. Startling claims require very solid evidence. What is this evidence?
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:''Almost the whole community of Camerapedia contributors moved to the Camera-wiki.org project.''
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I don't immediately see familiar names at work over there, but mere personal impressions aren't good enough. Exactly what is the basis for this assertion? (How do you measure "the whole community of [pre-Wikia] Camerapedia contributors"? What's the criterion for "[moving] to the Camera-wiki.org project"? How many did move to it? And what's the percentage?)
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:''its "Wikia skin" truly spoils many of the old original page designs''
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Mere opinion. It's opinion that I happen to agree with, but it's mere opinion all the same. It doesn't belong here. [[User:Zuleika|Zuleika]] 19:15, 28 March 2011 (PDT)

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Origin of Camera-wiki.org

To be strictly accurate, Vox created a new Flickr group (its name changed a couple of times), and Flickrmailed invitations to anyone who seemed angry enough to take some kind of action. Steevithak had done some hard thinking about what steps would be involved, and in the new group he proposed a plan of action which we basically followed to the letter.--Vox 20:44, 26 March 2011 (PDT)

Assertions lacking evidence, and opinon

I've just now made some changes to this article, but I have left in the parts that worry me the most. Here they are:

after incidents of wrong user attribution of wiki texts and unauthorized image uploads - both reverted by Wikia after protests

I'm not surprised to hear of this. But such an assertion needs indisputable evidence. Let's have it.

Camerapedia is [...] on thin ice since it started commercial mode without having a valid permission for most of its Flickr image links.

Putting aside for now the allegation about "thin ice", the claim that the site lacks "valid permission for most of its Flickr image links" is a very serious one. Startling claims require very solid evidence. What is this evidence?

Almost the whole community of Camerapedia contributors moved to the Camera-wiki.org project.

I don't immediately see familiar names at work over there, but mere personal impressions aren't good enough. Exactly what is the basis for this assertion? (How do you measure "the whole community of [pre-Wikia] Camerapedia contributors"? What's the criterion for "[moving] to the Camera-wiki.org project"? How many did move to it? And what's the percentage?)

its "Wikia skin" truly spoils many of the old original page designs

Mere opinion. It's opinion that I happen to agree with, but it's mere opinion all the same. It doesn't belong here. Zuleika 19:15, 28 March 2011 (PDT)