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==Description==
 
==Description==
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The Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom is one of the longest lived zoom lenses marketed by [[Vivitar|Ponder and Best (Vivitar)]]. The first version of the lens was announced in the late 1960s, making it the very first zoom lens sold under the Vivitar badge. The last version was still being sold over a decade later. The exterior of the lens was modified multiple times to match the appearance of the Vivitar lens family it was marketed with; initially the '''Chrome Nose family''', later the '''Bright Band family''' and then all black versions with metal or rubber focus rings to match later lens families. The earliest versions were also available as preset T Mounts and included in the Vivitar '''Compatible T System Family'''. The T Mount versions had an unusual marking on the preset ring of a red triangle. This marking signifies Kino Precision-made lenses that modern collectors refer to as the '''Pyramid Preset family'''. Most of the variations of the 85-205mm zoom were simply cosmetic changes to the exterior hardware but one of the last versions of the lens included internal changes to allow closer focusing.
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The Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom is one of the longest lived zoom lenses marketed by [[Vivitar|Ponder and Best (Vivitar)]]. The first version of the lens was announced in the late 1960s, making it the very first zoom lens sold under the Vivitar badge. The last version was still being sold over a decade later. The exterior of the lens was modified multiple times to match the appearance of the Vivitar lens family it was marketed with; initially the '''Chrome Nose family''', later the '''Bright Band family''' and then all black versions with metal or rubber focus rings to match later lens families. The earliest versions were also available as preset T Mounts and included in the Vivitar '''Compatible T System Family'''. The T Mount versions had an unusual marking on the preset ring of a red triangle. This marking signifies Kino Precision-made lenses that modern collectors refer to as the '''Pyramid Preset family'''. Most of the variations of the 85-205mm zoom were simply cosmetic changes to the exterior hardware but one of the last versions of the lens included internal changes to allow closer focusing. Based on serial numbers, a short production run of T mounts for each version occurred first, followed by continued production of automatics for the life of that version.
  
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There were 7 different versions of the lens. The first 4 versions came in both auto and preset variations, making a total of 11 different variations of the lens that are known to be marketed by P&B. All versions of the lens are believed to have been manufactured by [[Kino Precision]]. The earliest models pre-date the standardized [[Vivitar serial numbers]] but all later models use the 22 prefix indicative of Kino Precision. Collectors believe Kino Precision also sold the same lens to other distributors. Variations of the lens have reportedly been sold as [[Soligor]], [[Hanimex]], [[Panagor]]<ref>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/28854013@N07/4314975740/ Flickr: photo of Panagor 85-205mm lens]</ref>, [[Best Products|Albinar]], Montgomery Ward<ref>Based on photo identification and specs in eBay listings</ref>, and other brands.<ref>[http://forum.mflenses.com/vivitar-85-205mm-zoom-pamphlet-advertisment-t24101.html#210793 MFlenses Forum: Vivitar 85-205mm Zoom Pamphlet Advertisment]</ref>
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There were 6 different versions of the lens. The first 4 versions came in both auto and preset variations, making a total of 10 different variations of the lens that are known to be marketed by P&B. All versions of the lens are believed to have been manufactured by [[Kino Precision]]. The earliest models pre-date the standardized [[Vivitar serial numbers]] but all later models use the 22 prefix indicative of Kino Precision. Collectors believe Kino Precision also sold the same lens to many other distributors. Variations of the lens have reportedly been sold as [[Soligor]], [[Hanimex]], [[Panagor]]<ref>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/28854013@N07/4314975740/ Flickr: photo of Panagor 85-205mm lens]</ref>, [[Best Products|Albinar]], Montgomery Ward<ref>Based on photo identification and specs in eBay listings</ref>, and other brands.<ref>[http://forum.mflenses.com/vivitar-85-205mm-zoom-pamphlet-advertisment-t24101.html#210793 MFlenses Forum: Vivitar 85-205mm Zoom Pamphlet Advertisment]</ref>
  
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According to a Ponder and Best advertisement, the earliest version of the lens retailed for $260 USD in 1967.<ref>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nesster/6543062535/in/pool-camerawiki April 1967 Vivitar ad for 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom Chrome Nose lens]</ref> The same ad lists the preset T-Mount variant of the lens for $180. A February 1969 Modern Photography ad lists the Version 3 fixed mount auto for $195 USD and the version 3 T Mount for $152 USD, showing a significant price drop is less than two years<ref>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/camerawiki/6917935633/in/pool-camerawiki Feb 1969 Vivitar ad for 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom Bright Band lens]</ref>. Versions 1 through 4 were very short-lived and are now quite rare, particularly the T Mount variants. Later versions however are very common, leading to this lens being one of the most commonly available Vivitar zoom lenses on the used market. As a result of the large supply of used 85-205mm lenses, even the rarer versions have little resale value among modern collectors. It's unusual to see any variant sell for more than $10 USD today.
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According to a Ponder and Best advertisement, the earliest version of the lens retailed for $260 USD in 1967.<ref>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nesster/6543062535/in/pool-camerawiki April 1967 Vivitar ad for 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom Chrome Nose lens]</ref> The same ad lists the preset T-Mount variant of the lens for $180. A February 1969 Modern Photography ad lists the Version 3 fixed mount auto for $195 USD and the version 3 T Mount for $152 USD, showing a significant price drop is less than two years<ref>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/camerawiki/6917935633/in/pool-camerawiki Feb 1969 Vivitar ad for 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom Bright Band lens]</ref>. Versions 1 through 3 were very short-lived and are now quite rare, particularly the T Mount variants. Later versions however are very common, leading to this lens being one of the most commonly available Vivitar zoom lenses on the used market. As a result of the large supply of used 85-205mm lenses, even the rarer versions have little resale value among modern collectors. It's unusual to see any variant sell for more than $10 USD today.
  
 
The lens maintains focus at all magnifications. The instructions recommend that best focus will be achieved by focusing at 205mm and then zooming to the desired focal length.
 
The lens maintains focus at all magnifications. The instructions recommend that best focus will be achieved by focusing at 205mm and then zooming to the desired focal length.
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==Variations==
 
==Variations==
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===Version 1 Preset T Mount===
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* '''Date:''' 1966
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' n/a
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* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
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The earliest preset T Mount version of the lens is based on the external design of the Chrome Nose family, with a silver ring at the front tip of the lens and a silver zoom ring with a diagonal diamond pattern. The focusing ring is metal with alternating longitudinal ridges and flats. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.
  
 
===Version 1 Auto Fixed Mount===
 
===Version 1 Auto Fixed Mount===
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===Version 1 Preset T Mount===
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* '''Date:''' 1966
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===Version 2 Preset T Mount===
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' n/a
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* '''Date:''' 1966 - 1967
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' 29479
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
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The earliest preset T Mount version of the lens is based on the external design of the Chrome Nose family, with a silver ring at the front tip of the lens and a silver zoom ring with a diagonal diamond pattern. The focusing ring is metal with alternating longitudinal ridges and flats. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.
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The second version is identical to version 1 except the metal focus ring now has longitudinal ridges only, the flats are gone. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.
  
 
===Version 2 Auto Fixed Mount===
 
===Version 2 Auto Fixed Mount===
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The second version is identical to version 1 except the metal focus ring now has longitudinal ridges only, the flats are gone. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Chrome Nose family.
 
The second version is identical to version 1 except the metal focus ring now has longitudinal ridges only, the flats are gone. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Chrome Nose family.
  
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===Version 2 Preset T Mount===
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===Version 3 Preset T Mount===
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* '''Date:''' 1966 - 1967
 
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' 29479
 
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* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
 
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The second version is identical to version 1 except the metal focus ring now has longitudinal ridges only, the flats are gone. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.
 
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===Version 3 Auto Fixed Mount===
 
 
* '''Date:''' 1968 - 1969 (approximate)
 
* '''Date:''' 1968 - 1969 (approximate)
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22xxxxxx
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22830049
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
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The third automatic version of the lens is based on the external design of the Bright Band family. The Silver ring at the front tip of the lens has been removed to make room for a black built-in extendible lens hood. The silver zoom ring remains, matching the bright silver bands of the members of the lens family. The focusing ring is metal with longitudinal ridges. The bottom grip area has a bumpy plastic covering. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Bright Band family.
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The third preset T Mount version of the lens is based on the external design of the Bright Band family. The Silver ring at the front tip of the lens has been removed to make room for a black built-in extendible lens hood. The silver zoom ring remains, matching the bright silver bands of the members of the lens family. The focusing ring is metal with longitudinal ridges. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br/>Zoom level attached
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br/>hood down
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|image_text= Version 3 T preset mount<br/>"Pyramid Preset" mark
 
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br/>hood up
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br>Rear side showing mounting ring
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|image_text= Version 3 T preset mount<br/>Hood up
 
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|image_text= Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 3<br/>Ad tearsheet ca 1969
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|image_text= Version 3 T preset mount
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===Version 3 Preset T Mount===
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===Version 3 Auto Fixed Mount===
 
* '''Date:''' 1968 - 1969 (approximate)
 
* '''Date:''' 1968 - 1969 (approximate)
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22830049
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22xxxxxx
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
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The third preset T Mount version of the lens is based on the external design of the Bright Band family. The Silver ring at the front tip of the lens has been removed to make room for a black built-in extendible lens hood. The silver zoom ring remains, matching the bright silver bands of the members of the lens family. The focusing ring is metal with longitudinal ridges. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.
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The third automatic version of the lens is based on the external design of the Bright Band family. The Silver ring at the front tip of the lens has been removed to make room for a black built-in extendible lens hood. The silver zoom ring remains, matching the bright silver bands of the members of the lens family. The focusing ring is metal with longitudinal ridges. The bottom grip area has a bumpy plastic covering. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Bright Band family.
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|image_text= Version 3 preset T mount
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)
 
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|image_text= Version 3 T preset mount
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br/>Zoom level attached
 
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|image_text= Version 3 T preset mount<br/>"Pyramid Preset" mark
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br/>hood down
 
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|image_text= Version 3 T preset mount<br/>Hood down
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br/>hood up
 
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|image_text= Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)<br>Rear side showing mounting ring
 
|image_by= steevithak
 
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|image_rights= cc
 
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|image_text= Version 3 T preset mount
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|image_text= Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 3<br/>Ad tearsheet ca 1969
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===Version 4 Auto Fixed Mount===
 
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* '''Date:''' 1969 - 1970 (approximate)
 
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* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22xxxxxx
 
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* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
 
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The lens is now all black, to match the coloring of the contemporary Vivitar lens family. The built-in lens hood remains, as does the metal focus ring with longitudinal ridges. The zoom ring is now has a black diamond grip pattern. The bottom grip area has a bumpy plastic covering.
 
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===Version 4 Preset T Mount===
 
===Version 4 Preset T Mount===
 
* '''Date:''' 1969 - 1970 (approximate)
 
* '''Date:''' 1969 - 1970 (approximate)
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* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm
  
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The lens is now all black, to match the coloring of the contemporary Vivitar lens family. The built-in lens hood remains, as does the metal focus ring with longitudinal ridges. The zoom ring is now has a black diamond grip pattern. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.
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The lens is now all black, to match the coloring of the contemporary Vivitar lens family. The built-in lens hood remains, as does the metal focus ring with longitudinal ridges. The zoom ring is now has a black diamond grip pattern. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family. Only a small number of T mounts have been reported. Ponder & Best did no known advertising of the Version 4 T mount, instead focusing on the more popular automatic.  
  
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===Version 4 Auto Fixed Mount===
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===Version 5===
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* '''Date:''' 1969 - 1973 (approximate)
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* '''Date:''' 1970 - 1973 (approximate)
 
 
* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22012969 - 22330184 (approximate)
 
* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22012969 - 22330184 (approximate)
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* '''Badging:''' AUTO Vivitar TELE-ZOOM 85-205mm 1:3.8
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* '''Badging:''' Varies with age, Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm or AUTO Vivitar TELE-ZOOM 85-205mm 1:3.8
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Starting with Version 5, the T Mount variation has been discontinued and only fixed mount automatic aperture is offered. The only apparent difference between the Version 4 auto fixed mount and this version is that the badging had been changed to reflect the fact that there is no preset version of the lens. The badge text is now prefixed with the upper case word '''AUTO'''.
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The lens is now all black, to match the coloring of the contemporary Vivitar lens family. The built-in lens hood remains, as does the metal focus ring with longitudinal ridges. The zoom ring is now has a black diamond grip pattern. The bottom grip area has a bumpy plastic covering. Most Version 4 lenses are automatics.  
  
 
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===Version 6===
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===Version 5===
 
* '''Date:''' 1973 - 1974 (approximate)
 
* '''Date:''' 1973 - 1974 (approximate)
 
* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22337475 - 22442143 (approximate)
 
* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22337475 - 22442143 (approximate)
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The focus ring, zoom ring, and bottom grip area are all covered with black diamond grip rubber. Like previous changes, this allows the  lens to match the contemporary Vivitar lens family.
 
The focus ring, zoom ring, and bottom grip area are all covered with black diamond grip rubber. Like previous changes, this allows the  lens to match the contemporary Vivitar lens family.
  
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===Version 7===
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===Version 6===
 
* '''Date:''' 1975 - 1977 (approximate)
 
* '''Date:''' 1975 - 1977 (approximate)
 
* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22500780 - 22710532 (approximate)
 
* '''Serial Numbers:''' 22500780 - 22710532 (approximate)
 
* '''Badging:''' Vivitar 85-205mm 1:3.8 CLOSE FOCUSING AUTO ZOOM
 
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The Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom is one of the longest lived zoom lenses marketed by Ponder & Best (later Vivitar)

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Vivitar ad for 85-205mm f/3.8 Tele Zoom Chrome Nose
image by Nesster (Image rights)

Description

The Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom is one of the longest lived zoom lenses marketed by Ponder and Best (Vivitar). The first version of the lens was announced in the late 1960s, making it the very first zoom lens sold under the Vivitar badge. The last version was still being sold over a decade later. The exterior of the lens was modified multiple times to match the appearance of the Vivitar lens family it was marketed with; initially the Chrome Nose family, later the Bright Band family and then all black versions with metal or rubber focus rings to match later lens families. The earliest versions were also available as preset T Mounts and included in the Vivitar Compatible T System Family. The T Mount versions had an unusual marking on the preset ring of a red triangle. This marking signifies Kino Precision-made lenses that modern collectors refer to as the Pyramid Preset family. Most of the variations of the 85-205mm zoom were simply cosmetic changes to the exterior hardware but one of the last versions of the lens included internal changes to allow closer focusing. Based on serial numbers, a short production run of T mounts for each version occurred first, followed by continued production of automatics for the life of that version.

There were 6 different versions of the lens. The first 4 versions came in both auto and preset variations, making a total of 10 different variations of the lens that are known to be marketed by P&B. All versions of the lens are believed to have been manufactured by Kino Precision. The earliest models pre-date the standardized Vivitar serial numbers but all later models use the 22 prefix indicative of Kino Precision. Collectors believe Kino Precision also sold the same lens to many other distributors. Variations of the lens have reportedly been sold as Soligor, Hanimex, Panagor[1], Albinar, Montgomery Ward[2], and other brands.[3]

According to a Ponder and Best advertisement, the earliest version of the lens retailed for $260 USD in 1967.[4] The same ad lists the preset T-Mount variant of the lens for $180. A February 1969 Modern Photography ad lists the Version 3 fixed mount auto for $195 USD and the version 3 T Mount for $152 USD, showing a significant price drop is less than two years[5]. Versions 1 through 3 were very short-lived and are now quite rare, particularly the T Mount variants. Later versions however are very common, leading to this lens being one of the most commonly available Vivitar zoom lenses on the used market. As a result of the large supply of used 85-205mm lenses, even the rarer versions have little resale value among modern collectors. It's unusual to see any variant sell for more than $10 USD today.

The lens maintains focus at all magnifications. The instructions recommend that best focus will be achieved by focusing at 205mm and then zooming to the desired focal length.

Specifications

  • Badging: Vivitar
  • Manufacturer: Kino Precision
  • Manufacture Date: ca 1967
  • Focal Length: 85-205mm (1:2.4 zoom ratio)
  • Aperture Range: f/3.8 - f/22 w/half stops
  • Diaphragm Type: Automatic
  • Diaphragm Blades: unknown
  • Filter Diameter: 58mm
  • Minimum Focus: 1.9 m (6.3 feet) versions 1-6
  • Mounts: Canon FL, M42, Mamiya/Sekor, Minolta, Nikon F, T mount (early versions only)
  • Elements: 13
  • Groups: 9
  • Weight: 794 g (28 oz) chrome nose versions, 907 g (32 oz) black hood versions
  • Accessories: A zoom lever was included to fit threaded hole in zoom ring
  • Example Serial Numbers: see below
  • Original Stock Number(s): unknown


Variations

Version 1 Preset T Mount

  • Date: 1966
  • Serial Numbers: n/a
  • Badging: Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm

The earliest preset T Mount version of the lens is based on the external design of the Chrome Nose family, with a silver ring at the front tip of the lens and a silver zoom ring with a diagonal diamond pattern. The focusing ring is metal with alternating longitudinal ridges and flats. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.

Version 1 Auto Fixed Mount

  • Date: 1966
  • Serial Numbers: n/a
  • Badging: Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm

The earliest automatic version of the lens is based on the external design of the Chrome Nose family, with a silver ring at the front tip of the lens and a silver zoom ring with a diagonal diamond pattern. The focusing ring is metal with alternating longitudinal ridges and flats. The bottom grip area has a bumpy plastic covering. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Chrome Nose family.


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Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 1
image by Nesster (Image rights)


Version 2 Preset T Mount

  • Date: 1966 - 1967
  • Serial Numbers: 29479
  • Badging: Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm

The second version is identical to version 1 except the metal focus ring now has longitudinal ridges only, the flats are gone. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.

Version 2 Auto Fixed Mount

  • Date: 1966 - 1967
  • Serial Numbers: 30980
  • Badging: Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm

The second version is identical to version 1 except the metal focus ring now has longitudinal ridges only, the flats are gone. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Chrome Nose family.

Version 3 Preset T Mount

  • Date: 1968 - 1969 (approximate)
  • Serial Numbers: 22830049
  • Badging: Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm

The third preset T Mount version of the lens is based on the external design of the Bright Band family. The Silver ring at the front tip of the lens has been removed to make room for a black built-in extendible lens hood. The silver zoom ring remains, matching the bright silver bands of the members of the lens family. The focusing ring is metal with longitudinal ridges. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family.

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Version 3 preset T mount
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Version 3 T preset mount
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Version 3 T preset mount
"Pyramid Preset" mark
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Version 3 T preset mount
Hood down
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Version 3 T preset mount
Hood up
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Version 3 T preset mount
image by steevithak (Image rights)


Version 3 Auto Fixed Mount

  • Date: 1968 - 1969 (approximate)
  • Serial Numbers: 22xxxxxx
  • Badging: Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm

The third automatic version of the lens is based on the external design of the Bright Band family. The Silver ring at the front tip of the lens has been removed to make room for a black built-in extendible lens hood. The silver zoom ring remains, matching the bright silver bands of the members of the lens family. The focusing ring is metal with longitudinal ridges. The bottom grip area has a bumpy plastic covering. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Bright Band family.

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Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)
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Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)
Zoom level attached
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Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)
hood down
image by steevithak (Image rights)
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Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)
hood up
image by steevithak (Image rights)
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Version 3 Fixed-mount (M42)
Rear side showing mounting ring
image by steevithak (Image rights)
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Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 3
Ad tearsheet ca 1969
image by Bill Swinyard (Image rights)


Version 4 Preset T Mount

  • Date: 1969 - 1970 (approximate)
  • Serial Numbers: 22950222[6]
  • Badging: Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm

The lens is now all black, to match the coloring of the contemporary Vivitar lens family. The built-in lens hood remains, as does the metal focus ring with longitudinal ridges. The zoom ring is now has a black diamond grip pattern. The top section of bottom grip area is used for the aperture preset rings. The upper preset ring has a small window to show the preset aperture. The lower preset ring has a distinctive graphic showing a red triangle inside a white direction indicator. The remainder of the bottom grip area is smooth black metal. Collectors consider this lens a member of the Pyramid Preset family. Only a small number of T mounts have been reported. Ponder & Best did no known advertising of the Version 4 T mount, instead focusing on the more popular automatic.

Version 4 Auto Fixed Mount

  • Date: 1969 - 1973 (approximate)
  • Serial Numbers: 22012969 - 22330184 (approximate)
  • Badging: Varies with age, Vivitar TELE ZOOM LENS 1:3.8 85-205mm or AUTO Vivitar TELE-ZOOM 85-205mm 1:3.8

The lens is now all black, to match the coloring of the contemporary Vivitar lens family. The built-in lens hood remains, as does the metal focus ring with longitudinal ridges. The zoom ring is now has a black diamond grip pattern. The bottom grip area has a bumpy plastic covering. Most Version 4 lenses are automatics.


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Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 5
Ad tearsheet ca 1971
image by Bill Swinyard (Image rights)
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Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 5
Ad tearsheet ca 1971
image by Bill Swinyard (Image rights)
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Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 5
Ad tearsheet ca 1971
image by Bill Swinyard (Image rights)
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Vivitar 85-205mm f/3.8 Version 5
image by Tim Stone (Image rights)


Version 5

  • Date: 1973 - 1974 (approximate)
  • Serial Numbers: 22337475 - 22442143 (approximate)
  • Badging: Vivitar 85-205mm 1:3.8 AUTO ZOOM

The focus ring, zoom ring, and bottom grip area are all covered with black diamond grip rubber. Like previous changes, this allows the lens to match the contemporary Vivitar lens family.

Version 6

  • Date: 1975 - 1977 (approximate)
  • Serial Numbers: 22500780 - 22710532 (approximate)
  • Badging: Vivitar 85-205mm 1:3.8 CLOSE FOCUSING AUTO ZOOM

The exterior design is the same as Version 5 but there have been internal optical changes to allow close focusing.


References

  1. ↑ Flickr: photo of Panagor 85-205mm lens
  2. ↑ Based on photo identification and specs in eBay listings
  3. ↑ MFlenses Forum: Vivitar 85-205mm Zoom Pamphlet Advertisment
  4. ↑ April 1967 Vivitar ad for 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom Chrome Nose lens
  5. ↑ Feb 1969 Vivitar ad for 85-205mm f/3.8 Zoom Bright Band lens
  6. ↑ Vivitar 85-205mm f3.8-22 T mount for sale Photos of the version 4 preset

Links

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