Talk:Super Makinet Six and Neure Six

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While you perhaps still have the magazines at hand, here is a bunch of questions:

  • about the Makinet:
    • were the two "expensive" versions already present from September 1936 onwards?
    • what is the top speed of the Rulex B: 1/150 or 1/200? the two ads reproduced in Kokusan kamera no rekishi are self-contradictory (1/200 in April '37, 1/150 in February '39)
    • if I compare the date of the ads you found for the Makinet with the ones mentioned by Kokusan kamera no rekishi (item 250), it seems that Kokusan kamera no rekishi is making mistakes: it does not mention the August and September '37. However it mentions March and April '38, is it true?
    • Kokusan kamera no rekishi also mentions an 新しい機械と材料 dated September '37, is it true and why would the camera appear there after it was featured in the February 1936 issue?
  • about the Neure:
    • are you sure of the year 1938 for the other mentions of the Neure Six? isn't it 1937?
    • do you think that アイン・カメラ・ウオークス comes from 第一カメラ店 or that it is a typo for ノイレ・カメラ・ウオークス (with ア for ノ and ン for レ)?
    • is there an address for 第一カメラ店?

--Rebollo fr 11:48, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Ooooops! Right now I don't have the magazines at hand, but I do have notes that I sleepily made from them.

  • were the two "expensive" versions already present from September 1936 onwards? Yes, and there was no mention of the cheap one. The cheap one was advertised in May '37 as coming soon, advertised in June '37 with no mention of not already being available. At least one later ad -- certainly August '37 and perhaps a later one too, but as I now have the page numbers it will be easy to check -- dropped any mention of the expensive models.
  • what is the top speed of the Rulex B: 1/150 or 1/200? In the first two ads (Sep/Oct 36) 150, thereafter 200 if mentioned at all (and it usually or perhaps always is mentioned).
  • if I compare the date of the ads you found for the Makinet with the ones mentioned by Kokusan kamera no rekishi (item 250), it seems that Kokusan kamera no rekishi is making mistakes: it does not mention the August and September '37. However it mentions March and April '38, is it true? I may have made some mistake; I'll check within 24 hours.
  • Kokusan kamera no rekishi also mentions an 新しい機械と材料 dated September '37, is it true and why would the camera appear there after it was featured in the February 1936 issue? I forgot to look for this, sorry.
  • are you sure of the year 1938 for the other mentions of the Neure Six? isn't it 1937? Typo, sorry.
  • do you think that アイン・カメラ・ウオークス comes from 第一カメラ店 or that it is a typo for ノイレ・カメラ・ウオークス (with ア for ノ and ン for レ)? The former seems plausible, the latter completely implausible.
  • is there an address for 第一カメラ店? Yes, I'll add it later.

-- Hoary 21:25, 11 February 2007 (EST)

I've done a bit more checking.
Prices: AC Sep '37 advert says that 普及型 is 40 yen, case for it is 3.5 yen; version with Lausar and Rulex B is 58 yen and with Radionar and Rulex A is 65 yen, case for either is 5 yen; rangefinder is 15 yen. The AC Oct '37 advert puts the prices of the cameras up to 46 yen, 65 yen and 73 yen respectively, leaving the other prices unchanged.
The prices and models of the Neure Six are different in the Daichi ad: A + Radionar 3.5, ¥80; A + Neure 3.5, ¥70; B + Neure 4.5, ¥60; B + Neure 3.5, ¥62; D + Neure 4.5, ¥43.
Hoary 09:39, 12 February 2007 (EST)
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