Talk:Pearl (6×9 self-erecting)

The formats

I changed the page title because the original Pearl takes larger than 6×9 exposures.

In McKeown I have the following models:

• Pearl II, III and IV (1909): 8×10.5 format on 118 film or plates
• Pearl (1911) for 8×13.7(?) format on 118 film or 8×10.5 plates
• Pearl No.2 (1923-1931) for 6×9 on 120 film, wooden then all metal
• Pearl (1933) for 6×9 on 120 film, metal

--Rebollo fr 14:00, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

That's a good change of names. Incidentally, I came back here because I realized that some of what I wrote last night was wrong. I have a better source. -- Hoary 19:11, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

Konishi, Rokuoh-sha, Konishiroku

I notice that you're saying "by Konishi and Konishiroku". I don't have a clear idea of the relationship between the names Konishi, Konishiroku and Rokuoh-sha, does the source you mention explain this?

--Rebollo fr 14:02, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

I don't have a clear idea either, and the source I mention doesn't explain it well. I have seen a good explanation; I just have to remember where it was. -- Hoary 19:11, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

The Pearl name

At first I thought that the Pearl name was copied from the Perle folders by Welta, that apparently sold quite well in Japan, and whose body was copied by Konishiroku, but the Welta Perle was introduced in 1930. --Rebollo fr 06:38, 3 July 2006 (EDT)

JCII museum books

"The Japanese Historical Camera. 2nd ed. Tokyo: JCII Camera Museum, 2004. (In both English and Japanese.) This book, whose alternative title is 日本の歴史的カメラ, has no ISBN and perhaps is only sold at the museum."

I've just visited the page of the JCII museum shop. In addition to the book you mentioned, there are many exhibition catalogues, among them Konica-Minolta-ten that you also mention as a source. I would like to hear something about these catalogues: do they only describe the items displayed at the exhibition, and how many items are displayed? --Rebollo fr 04:34, 5 July 2006 (EDT)

I haven't seen most of them. I suppose my Konica/Minolta catalogue cost 1,000 yen (I don't remember); if it did, and if the other regular catalogues are about as good, they're worthwhile if you're particularly interested in the brand and have no other resource. (The descriptions within them are sketchy.) The KM catalogue only shows what was displayed: this was quite a lot, but by no means complete. 日本カメラの歴史 is ludicrously overpriced at 20,000: I got my paperback copy via abebooks for little more than one tenth of that price. If you get that, you won't want the 1500-yen book with the black cover. The book of historical cameras that I cite in the article (and whose listing you quote above) is actually this website in handsomely printed and bilingual form, with photos that have slightly more detail: I find it more pleasant to browse and when I discovered that its content was all on the web I didn't begrudge the money I'd spent on it. -- Hoary 05:00, 5 July 2006 (EDT)