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The [[Hermagis]] Cinema projection lens comprises of a lens holder and focussing unit with tangential drive and a slide-in, smooth-walled lens tube which is marked off with its focal length. It seems that the lens tube, which holds a lens of [[Petzval lens | Petzval]] design, was interchangeable in the lens mount. Early lenses were set in fully brass-bound tubes, later lenses had the brass tube replaced by nickel or other alloys. The serial number of the lens is marked on the side of the front lens element mount amon the earlier examples, and on the lens bezel in the later units  produced by [[SOM]]. As is common with [[Hermagis]] lenses, the sides of the lens cells are  inscribed 'Hermagis Paris' with focal length and year of production (all in pencil).<ref>For an example, see this documentation of the components of a Hermagis Objectif Cinema f=150mm (s/n 132115) with brass mount ([http://www.flickr.com/photos/heritagefutures/sets/72157639140196996  Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann] via Flickr).</ref>
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The [[Hermagis]] Cinema projection lens comprises of a lens holder and focussing unit with tangential drive and a slide-in, smooth-walled lens tube which is marked off with its focal length. It seems that the lens tube, which holds a lens of [[Petzval lens | Petzval]] design, was interchangeable in the lens mount. Early lenses were set in fully brass-bound tubes, later lenses had the brass tube replaced by nickel or other alloys. In the final years, [[Hermagis]] sold lenses with a stepped appareance, as well as projection lenses under the name 'Magister.'
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The serial number of the lens is marked on the side of the front lens element mount amon the earlier examples, and on the lens bezel in the later units  produced by [[SOM]]. As is common with [[Hermagis]] lenses, the sides of the lens cells are  inscribed 'Hermagis Paris' with focal length and year of production (all in pencil).<ref>For an example, see this documentation of the components of a Hermagis Objectif Cinema f=150mm (s/n 132115) with brass mount ([http://www.flickr.com/photos/heritagefutures/sets/72157639140196996  Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann] via Flickr).</ref>
  
 
In the early 1900s [[Hermagis]] also reputedly manufactured the cinema projection lenses sold by and branded as Pathé.<ref> [http://www.galerie-photo.org/n-f-117363.html Discussion thread] in Galerie Photo.—While it is documented that Pathé drew on Hermagis lenses for their 9.5mm film cameras (as well as [[Zeiss]] and [[Krauss]]), an examination of two Pathé Frére Paris Extra-Lumineux 150mm projector lenses (both Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann) showed no markings on the sides of the front cells or any other indication that the Extra-Lumineux projection lenses were also made by Hermagis.</ref> By the late 1920s the production of all Hermagis-branded projection lenses occurred by [[SOM]]. These lenses are marked 'Hermagis SOM'.
 
In the early 1900s [[Hermagis]] also reputedly manufactured the cinema projection lenses sold by and branded as Pathé.<ref> [http://www.galerie-photo.org/n-f-117363.html Discussion thread] in Galerie Photo.—While it is documented that Pathé drew on Hermagis lenses for their 9.5mm film cameras (as well as [[Zeiss]] and [[Krauss]]), an examination of two Pathé Frére Paris Extra-Lumineux 150mm projector lenses (both Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann) showed no markings on the sides of the front cells or any other indication that the Extra-Lumineux projection lenses were also made by Hermagis.</ref> By the late 1920s the production of all Hermagis-branded projection lenses occurred by [[SOM]]. These lenses are marked 'Hermagis SOM'.
  
  
===List of ''Objectif Cinema'' lenses===
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===List Hermagis projection  lenses===
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Hermagis sold the lenses under the descriptions 'Objectif Cinema' and 'Magister.'
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====Objectif Cinema====
 
Hermagis Cinema lenses have been documented with these focal lengths:
 
Hermagis Cinema lenses have been documented with these focal lengths:
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=====Smooth Cylindrical Barrel Lenses=====
 
*80mm<ref>
 
*80mm<ref>
 
s/n 213344 silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Jan 2014);  
 
s/n 213344 silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Jan 2014);  
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*85mm<ref>
 
*85mm<ref>
s/n 203627, silver barrel ([http://www.filmprojectors.eu/pageshow1.asp?curpage=2&catid=18 www.filmprojectors.eu]);
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s/n 203627, silver barrel ([https://web.archive.org/web/20111122011500/http://www.filmprojectors.eu/pageshow1.asp?curpage=2&catid=18 www.filmprojectors.eu] (archived));
 
</ref>
 
</ref>
  
 
*95mm<ref>
 
*95mm<ref>
no number, brass barrel ([http://www.filmprojectors.eu/pageshow1.asp?curpage=2&catid=18 www.filmprojectors.eu]);  
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no number, brass barrel ([https://web.archive.org/web/20111122011500/http://www.filmprojectors.eu/pageshow1.asp?curpage=2&catid=18 www.filmprojectors.eu] (archived));  
 
</ref>
 
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*120mm<ref>
 
*120mm<ref>
s/n 49593 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.[http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LotDetailsPrintable.aspx?intObjectID=4320172 Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56];  
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s/n 49593 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.[https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/1896-lumiere-cinematographe-outfit-4320172-details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=4320172 Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56];  
 
s/n 70352, brass barrel (seen in an online offering; Dec 2013);  
 
s/n 70352, brass barrel (seen in an online offering; Dec 2013);  
 
s/n 102086, brass barrel (seen in an online offering; Jan 2014);   
 
s/n 102086, brass barrel (seen in an online offering; Jan 2014);   
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s/n 51223, brass barrel  (seen in an online offering; Dec 2013);
 
s/n 51223, brass barrel  (seen in an online offering; Dec 2013);
 
s/n 133512, brass barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
 
s/n 133512, brass barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
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</ref>
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*140mm<ref>
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s/n 198198, silver barrel, [https://flic.kr/p/PJQ7HG picture] (Collection R. Maly)
 
</ref>
 
</ref>
  
 
*150mm<ref>
 
*150mm<ref>
 
s/n 44108, brass barrel (1907) [http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?98394-Pathe-Freres-150mm discussion thread] at www.largeformatphotography.info;  
 
s/n 44108, brass barrel (1907) [http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?98394-Pathe-Freres-150mm discussion thread] at www.largeformatphotography.info;  
s/n 115381 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.[http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LotDetailsPrintable.aspx?intObjectID=4320172 Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56];
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s/n 115381 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.[https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-1896-lumiere-cinematographe-outfit-4320172 Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56];
 
s/n 132115, brass barrel  (1928) (Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann)
 
s/n 132115, brass barrel  (1928) (Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann)
 
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*170mm<ref>
 
*170mm<ref>
s/n 51751 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.[http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LotDetailsPrintable.aspx?intObjectID=4320172 Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56];
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s/n 51751 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.[https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/1896-lumiere-cinematographe-outfit-4320172-details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=4320172 Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56];
 
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serial number unknown, brass barrel  (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
 
serial number unknown, brass barrel  (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
 
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*195mm<ref>
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serial number unknown, brass barrel  (seen in an online auction; March 2014);
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Hermagis Cinema SOM (projection lenses)
 
Hermagis Cinema SOM (projection lenses)
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*80mm<ref>
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s/n 242557, silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Mar 2014);
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*90mm<ref>
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s/n 559999, silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Mar 2014);
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</ref>
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*100mm<ref>
 
*100mm<ref>
 
s/n 207402, silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Nov 2013);  
 
s/n 207402, silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Nov 2013);  
 
s/n 367005 silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);  
 
s/n 367005 silver barrel  (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);  
 
</ref>
 
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*110mm<ref>
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s/n 389286, silver barrel, [https://flic.kr/p/PN2Nbt picture], collection R. Maly
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=====Stepped Barrel Lenses=====
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The lenses are comprised of smooth-walled cyclindrical barrels with a stepped section of a lesser barrel diameter
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*100mm<ref>length 123mm, front Ø72mm, back Ø62mm, ~700g; sn 520366 (seen in an online sales; Feb 2014).</ref>
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====Hermagis Magister ====
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The Hermagis Magister is a [[Petzval lens | Petzval-type]] projection lens cased in aluminium with a focussing thread on the lens sleeve. The front of the lens has a knurled surface to allow manual focussing. The lens is designed for 35mm slide projectors Some minor variations exist in the design of the lens housing.
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Hermagis Magister lenses have been documented with these focal lengths:
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*35mm f/1.6
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**with inscription surrounding the glass<ref>s/n 288465 (seen in an online auction; Oct 2013); s/n 292598 (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013)</ref>
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*50mm f/1.6
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**with inscription surrounding the glass<ref>s/n 277383  (seen in an online auction; Jan 2013); s/n 282751 (seen in an online auction; Oct 2013); </ref>
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*65mm f/1.6
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**with inscription on the outside<ref>s/n 286099 (seen in an online auction; Oct 2013)</ref>
  
  
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== Notes and References ==
 
== Notes and References ==
 
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[[Category:Lenses]]

Latest revision as of 05:39, 9 September 2022

The Hermagis Cinema projection lens comprises of a lens holder and focussing unit with tangential drive and a slide-in, smooth-walled lens tube which is marked off with its focal length. It seems that the lens tube, which holds a lens of Petzval design, was interchangeable in the lens mount. Early lenses were set in fully brass-bound tubes, later lenses had the brass tube replaced by nickel or other alloys. In the final years, Hermagis sold lenses with a stepped appareance, as well as projection lenses under the name 'Magister.'

The serial number of the lens is marked on the side of the front lens element mount amon the earlier examples, and on the lens bezel in the later units produced by SOM. As is common with Hermagis lenses, the sides of the lens cells are inscribed 'Hermagis Paris' with focal length and year of production (all in pencil).[1]

In the early 1900s Hermagis also reputedly manufactured the cinema projection lenses sold by and branded as Pathé.[2] By the late 1920s the production of all Hermagis-branded projection lenses occurred by SOM. These lenses are marked 'Hermagis SOM'.


List Hermagis projection lenses

Hermagis sold the lenses under the descriptions 'Objectif Cinema' and 'Magister.'

Objectif Cinema

Hermagis Cinema lenses have been documented with these focal lengths:

Smooth Cylindrical Barrel Lenses
  • 100mm (f/2.9)[6]


Hermagis Cinema SOM (projection lenses)

Stepped Barrel Lenses

The lenses are comprised of smooth-walled cyclindrical barrels with a stepped section of a lesser barrel diameter

Hermagis Magister

The Hermagis Magister is a Petzval-type projection lens cased in aluminium with a focussing thread on the lens sleeve. The front of the lens has a knurled surface to allow manual focussing. The lens is designed for 35mm slide projectors Some minor variations exist in the design of the lens housing.

Hermagis Magister lenses have been documented with these focal lengths:

  • 35mm f/1.6
    • with inscription surrounding the glass[22]
  • 50mm f/1.6
    • with inscription surrounding the glass[23]
  • 65mm f/1.6
    • with inscription on the outside[24]


Links

Notes and References

  1. For an example, see this documentation of the components of a Hermagis Objectif Cinema f=150mm (s/n 132115) with brass mount (Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann via Flickr).
  2. Discussion thread in Galerie Photo.—While it is documented that Pathé drew on Hermagis lenses for their 9.5mm film cameras (as well as Zeiss and Krauss), an examination of two Pathé Frére Paris Extra-Lumineux 150mm projector lenses (both Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann) showed no markings on the sides of the front cells or any other indication that the Extra-Lumineux projection lenses were also made by Hermagis.
  3. s/n 213344 silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Jan 2014);
  4. s/n 203627, silver barrel (www.filmprojectors.eu (archived));
  5. no number, brass barrel (www.filmprojectors.eu (archived));
  6. s/n 150059, silver barrel (listed on http://www.ksmt.com); s/n 207402, silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
  7. s/n 62259, brass barrel (seen in an Argentinian online auction; Dec 2013); s/n 142340, silver barrel, height 64 mm, Ø 42 mm (seen in an online offering; Dec 2013);
  8. s/n 49593 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56; s/n 70352, brass barrel (seen in an online offering; Dec 2013); s/n 102086, brass barrel (seen in an online offering; Jan 2014); s/n 326254, silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
  9. s/n 51223, brass barrel (seen in an online offering; Dec 2013); s/n 133512, brass barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
  10. s/n 198198, silver barrel, picture (Collection R. Maly)
  11. s/n 44108, brass barrel (1907) discussion thread at www.largeformatphotography.info; s/n 115381 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56; s/n 132115, brass barrel (1928) (Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann)
  12. s/n 198202, silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013)
  13. no number, brass barrel (www.filmprojectors.eu);
  14. s/n 51751 (1896 Lumière Cinématographe Outfit.Christies Sale 9892 (20 July 2004) Lot 56;
  15. serial number unknown, brass barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
  16. serial number unknown, brass barrel (seen in an online auction; March 2014);
  17. s/n 242557, silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Mar 2014);
  18. s/n 559999, silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Mar 2014);
  19. s/n 207402, silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Nov 2013); s/n 367005 silver barrel (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013);
  20. s/n 389286, silver barrel, picture, collection R. Maly
  21. length 123mm, front Ø72mm, back Ø62mm, ~700g; sn 520366 (seen in an online sales; Feb 2014).
  22. s/n 288465 (seen in an online auction; Oct 2013); s/n 292598 (seen in an online auction; Dec 2013)
  23. s/n 277383 (seen in an online auction; Jan 2013); s/n 282751 (seen in an online auction; Oct 2013);
  24. s/n 286099 (seen in an online auction; Oct 2013)