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:‘Foth Derby” embossed on the leather
 
:‘Foth Derby” embossed on the leather
 
::Are the windows rimmed?
 
::Are the windows rimmed?
:::Yes :→ Derby 1A  
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:::Yes :→ [[Derby#Derby (1930)|Derby 1A]]
 
:::No
 
:::No
::::negatives 24 x 36 :→ Derby 1AB
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::::negatives 24 x 36 :→ [[Derby#Derby (1930)| Derby 1B]]
 
::::negatives 30 x 40 :→ (existence unclear)
 
::::negatives 30 x 40 :→ (existence unclear)
 
:‘Gallus” embossed on the leather
 
:‘Gallus” embossed on the leather
::→ Gallus Derby  
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::→ [[Derby#Gallus Derby (1937–)|Gallus Derby]]
 
Yes
 
Yes
 
:Does the Derby have a rangefinder?
 
:Does the Derby have a rangefinder?
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::::removable (separation line visible)?
 
::::removable (separation line visible)?
 
:::::Yes
 
:::::Yes
::::::→ Derby 4a (existence unclear)
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::::::→ [[Derby#Derby 4 (1936–1940)|Derby 4a]] (existence unclear)
 
:::::No
 
:::::No
::::::→ Derby 4b
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::::::→ [[Derby#Derby 4 (1936–1940)|Derby 4b]]
 
:::Range finder mounted on camera body
 
:::Range finder mounted on camera body
 
:::: ‘Foth Paris on winding knob?”
 
:::: ‘Foth Paris on winding knob?”
:::::→ Derby 5  
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:::::→ [[Derby#Derby 5 (193??)|Derby 5]]
  
  
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::No  
 
::No  
 
:::lens f2.5  
 
:::lens f2.5  
::::→ Derby 2A/2.5  
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::::→ [[Derby#Derby 2 (1931–)|Derby 2A/2.5]]
 
:::lens f3.5  
 
:::lens f3.5  
::::→ Derby 2A/3.5  
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::::→ [[Derby#Derby 2 (1931–)|Derby 2A/3.5]]
 
::Yes  
 
::Yes  
 
:::Pressure plate margin
 
:::Pressure plate margin
 
::::notched  
 
::::notched  
 
:::::lens f2.5  
 
:::::lens f2.5  
::::::→ Derby 2B/2.5  
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::::::→ [[Derby#Derby 2 (1931–)|Derby 2B/2.5]]
 
:::::lens f3.5  
 
:::::lens f3.5  
::::::→ Derby 2B/3.5  
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::::::→ [[Derby#Derby 2 (1931–)|Derby 2B/3.5]]
 
::::straight  
 
::::straight  
 
:::::lens f2.5  
 
:::::lens f2.5  
::::::→ Derby 2C/2.5  
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::::::→ [[Derby#Derby 2 (1931–)|Derby 2C/2.5]]
 
:::::lens f3.5  
 
:::::lens f3.5  
::::::→ Derby 2C/3.5  
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::::::→ [Derby#Derby 2 (1931–)|Derby 2C/3.5]]
 
Two oval red and two oval green windows
 
Two oval red and two oval green windows
 
:Does the lens have a serial number?
 
:Does the lens have a serial number?
 
::No  
 
::No  
 
:::lens f2.5  
 
:::lens f2.5  
::::→ Derby 3A/2.5  
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::::→ [[Derby#Derby 3 (1935–1939?)|Derby 3A/2.5]]
 
:::lens f3.5  
 
:::lens f3.5  
::::→ Derby 3A/3.5  
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::::→ [[Derby#Derby 3 (1935–1939?)|Derby 3A/3.5]]
 
::Yes  
 
::Yes  
 
:::lens f2.5  
 
:::lens f2.5  
::::→ Derby 3B/2.5  
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::::→ [[Derby#Derby 3 (1935–1939?)|Derby 3B/2.5]]
 
:::lens f3.5  
 
:::lens f3.5  
::::→ Derby 3B /3.5
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::::→ [[Derby#Derby 3 (1935–1939?)|Derby 3B/3.5]]
  
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
 
<references />
 
<references />

Revision as of 10:09, 9 August 2010

Identifying your Derby

The Foth Derby comes in a bewildering range of variants. In total five discrete types can be distinguished, each with their own sub-types, lens combinations and viewfinder options, augmented by additional variations subject to the market the camera was sold to. The technical and construction details common to all Derby models are:

  • Cloth focal plane shutter with speed settings of B, 1/25, 1/50, 1/75, 1/100, 1/200, and 1/500.
  • Leather-covered aluminium body construction, with a strut folding system.
  • Lens with helical focussing.

The dichotomous key provided below provides an avenue at identifying the types of Foth Derby. Given the confusing similarity of models and variants, it is recommended that you follow the steps, rather than scanning for criteria. When you have identified your model, click on the model name to see a full description. The typology set out here was created by observation of a large number of Derby cameras in the author’s collection[1].

STEP 1 Does the Derby have a self-timer?

No

‘Foth Derby” embossed on the leather
Are the windows rimmed?
Yes :→ Derby 1A
No
negatives 24 x 36 :→ Derby 1B
negatives 30 x 40 :→ (existence unclear)
‘Gallus” embossed on the leather
Gallus Derby

Yes

Does the Derby have a rangefinder?
No
GO TO STEP 2
Yes
Rangefinder mounted on lens board
removable (separation line visible)?
Yes
Derby 4a (existence unclear)
No
Derby 4b
Range finder mounted on camera body
‘Foth Paris on winding knob?”
Derby 5


STEP 2 What windows does the camera back show?

Two round red windows

Does the lens have a serial number?
No
lens f2.5
Derby 2A/2.5
lens f3.5
Derby 2A/3.5
Yes
Pressure plate margin
notched
lens f2.5
Derby 2B/2.5
lens f3.5
Derby 2B/3.5
straight
lens f2.5
Derby 2C/2.5
lens f3.5
→ [Derby#Derby 2 (1931–)|Derby 2C/3.5]]

Two oval red and two oval green windows

Does the lens have a serial number?
No
lens f2.5
Derby 3A/2.5
lens f3.5
Derby 3A/3.5
Yes
lens f2.5
Derby 3B/2.5
lens f3.5
Derby 3B/3.5

Notes

  1. Photographica Collection Dirk HR Spennemann