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Dubious Bergheil

The camera pictured below has been identified as a Bergheil, but I am not sure of that. Please note the shape of the struts, and the small focusing knob on one side only. I'm storing the picture here in case someone does recognize the camera. --rebollo_fr 08:25, 8 August 2010 (EDT)

It's certainly not a Bergheil. It's most likely a Welta something-or-other, similar to this one. fourtotwentychars 12:00, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Similarly, I have commented out an array of pictures of a 4.5x6 cm camera identified in the article as a Bergheil, because I can find nothing to support that identification; there was text saying the 4.5x6 model is distinctly different from other sizes, but McKeown shows one in this size that looks just like the others. If anyone knows better than me, go ahead and undo what I did. --Dustin McAmera 18:10, 21 January 2012 (PST)
I guess I got frustrated by failing to find these pictures in flickr. I found them in the morning, and the camera clearly is a real Bergheil, just an early one. --Dustin McAmera 10:59, 22 January 2012 (PST)