Talk:Alfred Eisenstaedt

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Someone had made the photo rights to the Carole Lombard photo "creative commons"—presumably because Michael Donovan (who scanned the magazine) used that as his default license. I don't believe this is correct, as we don't know whether LIFE Magazine or Eisenstadt's estate may still claim copyright in the image. It may be reasonable to claim "fair use" however. --Vox 08:19, 2 December 2011 (PST)

Our use of a photo like this for a non-commercial purpose, is 'Fair' in most cases, I think, but perhaps not if we copy it from a source that's not using it fairly: the guy here is asserting rights over the image he doesn't have (actually, a lot of his flickr account is the same; he's not trying to exploit the images commercially; all he gets are Flickr views, but he is asserting the right to apply a licence, and it looks like he's shown little regard for the real copyright owners). A wiki about cameras won't stand or fall by its coverage of Carole Lombard; any picture by Eisenstaedt which we are clearly at liberty to use would be better than this one.
LIFE has this about photos that they own: http://www.life.com/service/faq#q8
The LIFE site has these photos of Carole Lombard: http://www.life.com/search/?type=images&q0=Carole+Lombard&page=1
They don't include the one that's at Flickr. If you click on one to enlarge it, you get a 'Licence' option at the right, which takes you straight to Getty. There, they want you to ell them what you plan to do with the picture, beofre they give you a price.
In Wikipedia's article on Eisenstaedt, they use the more famous 'VJ Day kiss' photo, and there is this page about it's use:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Legendary_kiss_V%E2%80%93J_day_in_Times_Square_Alfred_Eisenstaedt.jpg
I think we could do worse than to replace the current image with this one, and put WP's argument for Fair Use in their Eisenstaedt article in the Talk page (i.e. here) to support the Fair Use claim. I see that somebody called Hoary wrote that argument! --Dustin McAmera 09:16, 2 December 2011 (PST)