Camera-wiki.org:Community discussions/Archive

Older discussions are archived in

• Archive 1 (Oldest)
• Archive 2
• Archive 3
• Archive 4

Below is a summary of the discussions in archives 1 and 2.

Separate community discussion pages

• Camera-wiki.org "To do" list
• Camera-wiki.org:Community_Discussions/Future_of_Camerapedia
• Camera-wiki.org:Community Discussions/A New Home for Camerapedia

Also, see the Camera-wiki.org Flickr discussion group

Archive summary

Here is the content of the archived discussions, briefly summarized, in the order in which it appears:

• Archive no.1

1. A link to an image on Flickr must be within its Camerapedia area and requires an accompanying link to the Flickr page.
2. Categories and templates both have their uses.
3. It may be a good idea to have "a list with sources of camera reviews".
4. See Camera-wiki.org:Standards (cameras) for how to write a page about a camera, and use Template:Camera where useful.
5. Eventually, each camera should get its own article. However, redirects can be used from the individual names to articles on more than one camera.
6. The name of the maker of the camera should appear in the article title if the camera is usually so named (so "Pentax LX", not "LX"), but not otherwise (so "Pearl", not "Konishiroku Pearl").
7. Articles may be provided to describe technical processes that are now primarily, or only, of historical interest (e.g. wet collodion")
8. There's a list of templates.
9. Templates may need more work.
10. Camerapedia is not affiliated with Wikipedia and there is no plan to change this.
11. See Help:Editing for help in editing.
12. Although it would be convenient if one could search for the intersection of two or more categories (for example Category:Japan AND Category:6x6 AND Category:folding), Wikimedia software does not allow this. Thus we have for example Category:Japanese 6x6 folding.
13. Although admin powers are needed for the best way to make complex alterations of redirects, non-admins can often achieve the same ends by rather messier means. If you are not an admin, have a good reason to do something like this and are willing to explain what you've done on the relevant talk pages, go ahead and do it without asking for an admin to help you.
14. Good ways to find good pages are to look in Special:Longpages and to explore Camera-wiki.org:List of templates.
15. On one purpose of a favicon.
16. Cameras and other products, even very old ones that are now unusable or unknown, are better described in the present tense. But what companies and people did to or with them in the past is better related in the past tense.
17. Other than by footnotes, precise specification of which assertion came from which source is hard to do. We now have a footnote facility, however.
18. Frame format is described as "[smaller] × [larger]", e.g. "24×36", "4.5×6".

• Archive no.2

1. A sub-category for fix-focused cameras might be created as a sub-category of Category:Viewfinder.
2. The word "classic" is not an objective way to classify cameras.
3. There is a CSS class called "noprint" to prevent parts of a page from appearing in the printable version. Nobody knows how to use the global CSS stylesheets provided by Mediawiki.
4. A Cleanup template may be applied to pages which need cleanup.
5. It would be good to have the ParserFunctions Mediawiki extension.
6. Affective words describing a particular feeling about a camera, such as "cute", are best avoided.
7. The dimensions and weights must be given in metric units, and a conversion into feet, inches and ounces may be provided.
8. There are cases where the nationality of a camera is difficult to define.
9. The Category:Digital should be split in a number of sub-categories.
10. An automatic index of companies might be created.
11. How to remove a redirect.
12. Various questions from a new contributor, drifting to a discussion about image hosting and copyrights.
13. New version of the main page.
14. Use of old advertising material which is still under copyright is not allowed.
15. On edit conflicts, when two users are working on a page at the same time.
16. Some disagreement about the posting of copyrighted advertising material.
17. New main page applied.
18. Camerapedia pages copied verbatim into Wikipedia, without source crediting, which is against the GFDL.
19. Working on the copyrights page.
20. Some plagiarism found and eradicated.
21. Proposal to emphasize the good external links, and objections to this proposal.
22. Proposal of French and other language versions.
23. Copyrighted images found and eradicated.
24. Link to another wiki.
25. A set of templates is available to tag the published pictures with their respective licensing status. It can be found in the Category:Image rights.
26. Visit from a Wikibook member.
27. One contributor briefly leaves the project, then comes back.
28. It is impolite to replace a good image by another equally good image without giving a reason and warning the contributor of the first image. It is discouraged to link an image from a site other than Flickr.
29. Disagreement about the usefulness of the Category: Famous photographers.
30. How to photograph cameras.
31. How far beyond "camera" should this wiki go?
32. How to classify the pages about film and emulsions.
33. Visit from someone who confuses this page with a photo newsgroup.
34. Manual confirmation of user creation is needed to avoid spam and destructive bots.
35. Visit from someone who confuses this page with a photo newsgroup.
36. Commercial links are prohibited, but links to private pages offering cameras for sale on a limited basis are tolerated. There is some disagreement about the links to auction houses such as Westlicht. The current practice is to allow the links to terminated auctions and to forbid the links to future auctions. Of course the links to the online auction sites such as eBay are forbidden.
37. Visitor offering to contribute images.
38. Questions from a beginning contributor.
39. Minor question about the search engine.
40. Visitor asking for information about very old lenses.