Talk:Konica C35

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I've just now removed:

The first C35 was also available in black, but I have not seen the later model - presumably because the Auto S3 was avilable solely in this colour and they were trying to differentiate between the cheaper and dearer models.

There are two problems. First, "I" is meaningless in Camerapedia. Secondly, even if "I" were rewritten as "no editor of Camerapedia" -- which I don't recommend at all, but which would make a little more sense in itself -- I regret to say that I wouldn't understand what the resulting sentence meant. -- Hoary 10:58, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

Could you please not re-edit until I have finished - I now appear to have lost half the article.

I was trying to put the whole series in KOnica perspective and I appear to have lost 50% of my work!

I suggest in future awaiting at least an hour before editing something that you think is in process.

Minor revisions are not really that important!


Paul

It is a problem when two people are working on an article at the same time. To avoid this, I sometimes add Work in Progress at the top of the page when I am heavily editing a long article. However, even when an editing conflict occurs, you don't lose your article completely: two windows appear, one with the text newly edited by the other contributor and another one (that appears only if you scroll down) with your text. You can cut and paste your text (second window) into the page (first window) and click "Apply". --Rebollo fr 13:16, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

Yes I saw that, but somehow my last two sections seemed to have gone! So I did them again.

I actually did what you suggested the second time and put "editing in progress as a heading!

He disgreed with a lot of my comments and on the whole I agree with him and have amended my text. However he was not totally right about everything and I think a reasoned discussion here is better than a public disagreement on the page!

Oh yes, thanks for that titling help - have used that code ever since.

Do you agree about discontinuing the individual Konica C35 model pages and having a collective one. As the site is so sparse, I think a bit of "concentration" would help make it a better place to browse - long lists of models are just not something that captivate an audience!

Paul

Yes, please merge all of them into a single page, see my comments in Talk:Konica C35 Series. I suggest "Konica C35" as a title.
I'm not sure that leaving a post on the talk page is very different from directly editing and leaving comments in the page itself. A comment on the talk page is visible "forever", and leaves a public record of the disagreement, while an SGML comment inserted in the page itself is invisible except to the editors of the page and disappears sooner.
--Rebollo fr 13:37, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

URGENT MESSAGE for Rebello - posted on both Konica C35 pages!

Some confusion here - in the editing conflict situation something funny happened to this page. So I started again, called it Konica C35 series and linked to it on the index page.

http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Konica_C35_Series This is the correct one.

http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Konica_C35 This one now is obsolete and I have deleted the contents. The C35v was a stub anyway and had no content, bar one line!

Can you sort the mess I have created please?

Sorry to burst in here and wreck the joint!

Paul

Comments moved from the talk page of "Konica C35 Series"

I have added this page and replaced the C35V and C35 E & L page

It seems to make sense to have an overview.

As the Automatic is only a perforation variety (a badge & Flashmatic control), it probably makes no sense to have a separate page for it.

The Auto S3/ RD was built on the same chassis as the simpler models. The only difference was a a new shutter/lens assembly. A separate page is in existance for this camera, so probably best to leave it "as is" I have added the spec & photo to show viewers that it is simply a member of the same family. A glance at the illustrations here will demonstrate how close it actually was: http://homepage1.nifty.com/fukucame/c35fd.htm It obviously started life with an identical top, but bearing in mind the huge price differential over the f2.8 C35, importers obviously requested a colour & name change so they could market it as an "upmarket" version.

This page has given rise to an editing conflict with Hoary and I lost half my work as he was editing it at the same time! I suggest respectfully, that in future we do not edit each other's pages until a reasonable period has elapsed - 1 day? I take Hoary's comments as being correct about Cosina not making the C35 - on reflection it was the Auto S3/Revue 400/Minolta Hi Matic Series ll that were identical "under the bonnet"

However my comments were based on some evidence of this - an article claiming this is true here:http://www.mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/gaf_memo35.html

The problem with the Wiki system is that it can so easily degenerate into a series of conflicting edits. With so few contributors to this project, it seems best that we each "get on with it" and make helpful comments on the discussion pages for each article.

Paul

See my comment in Talk:Konica C35 about editing conflicts. --Rebollo fr 13:25, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

Title of the page

I suggest Konica C35 as a title, with redirects from Konica C35 V and others. We can have all the models listed in the Konica page, all of them linked to Konica C35. --Rebollo fr 13:25, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

I also think that this page absolutely needs to be merged with Konica C35 Automatic. --Rebollo fr 13:28, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

URGENT MESSAGE for Rebollo - posted on both Konica C35 pages!

Some confusion here - in the editing conflict situation something funny happened to this page. So I started again, called it Konica C35 series and linked to it from the main index page.

http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Konica_C35_Series This is the correct one.

http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Konica_C35 This one now is obsolete and I have deleted the contents. The C35v was a stub anyway and had no content, bar one line!

Can you sort the mess I have created please?

Sorry to burst in here and wreck the joint!

Paul


I am now in the process of adding the C35 Automatic to the contents of this page, so that will be another one to delete shortly!

You can quietly work on the Konica C35 Series page to finish your edits. I will sort out the things later, moving everything to Konica C35 and making the corresponding redirects. --Rebollo fr 13:48, 2 September 2006 (EDT)


I have now finished and await retribution for my statements from Hoary!

I have added the picture and some points from the C35 automatic page.

I leave it in your cabable hands to sort the links from the main page and to get rid of the now surplus C35v and C35 Automatic pages.

I know its created a bit of turmoil for you to sort out, but are you OK with the two pages I have had a go at? If you are, I'll come back in about a month with a couple of fresh articles.

Thanks for your help. I'll try and behave better in future!

Paul