Talk:Kodak cine lenses

The information in this page comes mostly from my personal research: scouring eBay for lenses and serial numbers, and experiences with the lenses that I own. All of the lens dates are recorded conservatively based on my own observations: lens serial numbers, instruction manuals, brochures, and advertising. (In other words, date ranges indicate the oldest and newest dates I've seen for the manufacturer or acknowledgement of lenses in that line) I can't be certain I've seen the oldest and newest examples of lenses in each line, so if you've seen older or newer examples of these lenses, please update the article accordingly. Since most of the information is based on my research, there's not much I can cite, though at some point I could add photos and links for old product manuals and advertising. Others' contributions would be welcome. Balazer (talk) 15:22, 26 March 2014 (PDT)

Welcome aboard with the great research!--Heritagefutures (talk) 09:11, 27 March 2014 (PDT)

I asked eBay user kamerawork and he gave me permission to his images for camera-wiki.org Balazer (talk) 19:22, 27 March 2014 (PDT)

eBay user autographics-inc. gave me permission to use her Zoomar 16 image. Balazer (talk) 20:39, 27 March 2014 (PDT)

eBay user treasures-untold gave me permission to use his or her Cine-Kodak Model K images. Balazer (talk) 00:46, 28 March 2014 (PDT)

U. kulick, please use the existing page structure: cameras by mount, and lenses by line, keeping 16 mm lenses separate from 8 mm lenses. You mixed everything up. The magazine cameras all use the same mount, and the 8 mm magazine cameras can use 16 mm lenses. The 50/1.6, 63/2.7, and 76/4.5 lenses indicated as options for the Magazine Cine-Kodak Eight in the 1940 brochure are actually 16 mm lenses, not 8 mm. Most lenses were available in multiple mounts, but they're otherwise identical, so we don't need duplicate listings for them. Balazer (talk) 19:26, 29 March 2014 (PDT)

Corrections

There are some issues you may want to correct.

The Model B was introduced in 1925, not 1926.

The Model A (type III) that switched to the interchangeable lens mount was introduced in Feb 1926, not 1927.

Linked reference No. 7 is no longer operative, and I have doubts about the information you reference from there. I have been researching this history for more than 25 years, and no mention of an A-mount has ever come up in regard to the Model E camera. It was equipped with either a fixed f/3.5 lens or a standard C-mount. The A and B mounts were both long gone by 1937, as C became the standard for most 16mm cameras, and that letter (A) was not used thereafter to describe any 1-inch diameter lens thread.

Kodak also made an S-mount to C-mount adapter.

I have doubts that the the Cine-Ektons were made by Angenieux, since both Ekton- and Angenieux-badged lenses are found on the Reflex Special, but I have too little data about this, and it bears more research. There certainly was a working relationship between Kodak and Angenieux in those days.

Aside from these minor issues, great article. Michael Cleveland

Thanks, Michael. I'm no expert and it's possible I've made some mistakes or referenced inaccurate sources. If you know better and you have references, feel free to make corrections to the article. The dates, in particular, I referenced sources for, but they could be wrong. I updated the URL for reference no. 7, so you should be able to view it now. As for the Type A mount of the Model E, I cited a source for that: an Eastman Kodak Company price list. I have no idea why Kodak considered Type A to be distinct from Type C, but they were quite clear that there is a difference, at least in that one source. As noted in the article, Kodak's "Type A" designation is probably no relation to the Bell & Howell A-mount that preceded B-mount and C-mount. The Kodak Reflex Special at worthpoint.com reference is where I saw that the Cine Ekton lenses were made by Angenieux. I don't know how true that is, but I'm pretty sure they weren't made by Kodak. It's a big roster of very fast professional lenses - not something Kodak would have been able to do by themselves for a camera that sold in such small numbers over a short period. Balazer (talk) 23:04, 16 February 2018 (CST)