Talk:Camera and photography museums

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Museums of what?

We read:

Camera museums / List of camera and photography museums

I think it's small-minded to attempt to separate cameras from photography. On the other hand, cameras are easily divisible from finished photographs. A number of the Japanese museums listed are galleries that concentrate on the work of a particular photographer (usually dead); these often give space to other photograph exhibitions, and may very well exhibit the photographer's own camera(s), but aren't camera museums by any stretch of the term. I suggest getting rid of these. -- Hoary 00:19, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

More concretely:

  • Machida City Museum of Photography
    • Seems to be mostly devoted to the photographs of Akiyama Shoutarou
  • Irie Taikichi Memorial Museum of Photography Nara City
    • The name suggests that it's devoted to the works of Irie.
  • Shoji Ueda Museum of photography
    • The name suggests that it's devoted to the works of Ueda.
  • Kiyosato Museum of Photographic Arts
    • A gallery of photographs.
  • Shiro Shirahata Photo Gallery
    • The name suggests that it's devoted to the works of Shirahata.

Hoary 02:58, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

of art(s) !

So let's have the courage to be big-minded: museums which show both arts, the art of photographic imaging (artful images) AND the art of photographic imaging (photographic technology, i.e. cameras) are the exception: JCII, or Eastman House. The recognition of the art form photography is not as wide-spread as we could wish. Presenting a list of the museums which present the arts of photographic imaging makes sense. Photography artists can be inspired to new image ideas by seeing historic camera conceptions created by photographic geniuses, as well as camera fans can rejoice seeing the fantastic images enabled by the technology when used by photographic geniuses. (U. Kulick, 23.4.2007)

OK, fine. Now the content matches the title.

I'd have to argue with some of the minor points you're making, however. One of them: The recognition of the art form photography is not as wide-spread as we could wish. It's considerably more widespread than I'd wish. The name "art" is slapped on all kinds of photography, which hugely increases the prices of relevant old books. I don't care what this does to the price of Cindy Sherman books (let alone prints): it's of no interest to me. But I'm irritated by what it has done to the price of books by Kurata Seiji now that Martin Parr and Gerry Badger have got hold of him. (I don't suppose that he benefits much from this: he hasn't had a book in print for years. It's the retailers that profit.) Meanwhile, solid documentary work continues to go almost unrecognized (unless the creator is one of a handful of stars) and the prices remain low; thus Kazama Kensuke stands in a Tokyo park every Sunday when the weather's not too bad, selling his prints for very little.

This week's photo book recommendation. -- Hoary 22:09, 23 April 2007 (EDT)