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== The {{tefuda}} models ==
 
== The {{tefuda}} models ==
 
=== Description ===
 
=== Description ===
The {{tefuda}} models have an all-wooden vertically folding body, with a handle at the top. The bellows have single extension, and there is a distance scale on the photographer's left. Variations are known in the shape of the folding struts, of which two types exist — thinner or larger. The front standard has two masts supporting the lensboard, and allows vertical movements only. There is a [[brilliant finder]] attached to the folding bed, to the photographer's left, with a retracting hood. The Pocket Idea B has a small ''POCKET IDEA'' nameplate attached to the base of the lens standard.
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The {{tefuda}} models have an all-wooden vertically folding body, with a handle at the top. The bellows have single extension, and there is a distance scale on the photographer's left. Variations are known in the shape of the folding struts, of which at least three types exist — straight, thin and large. The front standard has two masts supporting the lensboard, and allows vertical movements only. There is a [[brilliant finder]] attached to the folding bed, to the photographer's left, with a retracting hood. The Pocket Idea B has a small ''POCKET IDEA'' nameplate attached to the base of the lens standard.
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=== Pocket Idea B ===
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It is said that the '''Pocket Idea B''' was introduced in August 1909, together with the [[Idea A|Pocket Idea A1]].<REF> Chronology of the official company history ''Shashin to tomo ni hyaku-nen'', reproduced in Tanaka, p.94 of {{KKS}} no.10, and Kikuoka, p.28 of the same magazine. </REF>
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In the December 1911 catalogue by [[Konica|Konishi Honten]], the camera is called "Idea Pocket Hand Camera" in English and "Pocket Idea Camera B Hand Camera" (ポケット、アイデヤ、カメラB號手提暗箱) in Japanese script.<REF> December 1911 catalogue of [[Konica|Konishi Honten]], p.8. A similar document is reproduced in [http://www2f.biglobe.ne.jp/~ter-1212/sakura/idea.htm this page at R.&nbsp;Konishi Rokuoh-sha], towards the bottom. </REF> It is offered for {{yen|15|1911}} with a rapid meniscus lens (迅速単玉), a simple Time and Instant shutter, and three double-sided plate holders. In the illustration, the camera has straight folding struts with an apparent spring, and has a square lensboard.
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It is said that the camera was modified in March 1916 with a shutter made by the company itself; at least one original illustration also suggests that the folding struts were modified with a thinner shape.<REF> Folding struts: compare the two first illustrations in the section about the Pocket Idea B and Idea B in [http://www2f.biglobe.ne.jp/~ter-1212/sakura/idea.htm this page at R.&nbsp;Konishi Rokuoh-sha], towards the middle of the page. </REF> Surviving examples are known with the words ''MANUFACTURED BY ROKUOH-SHA TOKYO'' inscribed on the shutter plate, around the lens, and sometimes with the ''RK'' logo of Rokuoh-sha on the T, B, I speed dial.<REF> Examples pictured in Kikuoka, p.29 of {{KKS}} no.10, and example pictured in {{SUG}}, item 1083, wrongly identified as a [[Idea A|Pocket Idea A1]]. </REF> The aperture scale is graduated in the [[Uniform Scale]], from US 4 to US 64 (i.e. f/8 to f/32).<REF> {{SUG}}, item 1083, reports the lens as a [[Bausch & Lomb]] RR 12.7cm, but this is unconfirmed. </REF>
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=== Idea B ===
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It is said that the camera became the '''Idea B''' (アイデアB号) in July 1920, with a revised rounded lensboard.<REF> Kikuoka, p.29 of {{KKS}} no.10, and [http://www2f.biglobe.ne.jp/~ter-1212/sakura/idea.htm this page at R.&nbsp;Konishi Rokuoh-sha]. The camera presented as a {{tefuda}}-size Idea B in the latter is certainly a {{meishi}} model instead. </REF> An advertisement dated 1922 for the "Idea B" mentions the ability to take film plates or a film pack, and offers two versions:<REF> Advertisement reproduced in [http://www2f.biglobe.ne.jp/~ter-1212/sakura/ideaB.htm this page at R.&nbsp;Konishi Rokuoh-sha]. The date is reported as 1922 in [http://www2f.biglobe.ne.jp/~ter-1212/sakura/idea.htm this other page]. </REF>
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* meniscus (単玉) lens, Ultex shutter, {{yen|28|1922}};
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* RR lens, Ultex shutter, {{yen|32|1922}}.
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The camera comes with three double-sided plate holders and a case, and the film pack holder is offered as an accessory for ¥6.50.
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Surviving examples are known with the newer lensboard, larger folding struts, and a round ''<small>The</small> Idea'' nameplate on the left. They have the following lens and shutter combinations:
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* unknown lens, Ultex shutter (T, B, 100, 50, 25);<REF> The same example is pictured in {{SUG}}, item 1084 (wrongly identified as a "Pocket Idea A-1"), and in Kikuoka, p.28 of {{KKS}} no.10 (identified as a 1909 "Pocket Idea B"). </REF>
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* [[Wollensak]] Rapid Rectilinear lens, Deltax shutter (T, B, 100, 50, 25).<REF> Example pictured in [http://neco.aki.gs/neco99/neco30/00/sakura/j420.html this page of Neco's camera collection]. </REF>
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These cameras do retain the ''POCKET IDEA'' nameplate; the name change perhaps applied to the catalogues and advertisements only, and was perhaps not followed by a change in the camera markings.
  
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==

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The Pocket Idea B (ポケットアイデアB号), Idea B (アイデアB号) and Idea Snap (アイデアスナップ) are Japanese plate folders made by Rokuoh-sha, the manufacturing branch of Konishi or Konishiroku (predecessors of Konica). The Pocket Idea B was first released in tefuda size (8×10.5cm), and later evolved as the Idea B. A smaller Idea B model was also released in meishi size (5.5×8cm), along with the cheaper Idea Snap. All these cameras were cheaper alternatives to the Idea A series, and both lines were replaced in 1923 by the Idea No.1.

See also the other Idea models.

The tefuda models

Description

The tefuda models have an all-wooden vertically folding body, with a handle at the top. The bellows have single extension, and there is a distance scale on the photographer's left. Variations are known in the shape of the folding struts, of which at least three types exist — straight, thin and large. The front standard has two masts supporting the lensboard, and allows vertical movements only. There is a brilliant finder attached to the folding bed, to the photographer's left, with a retracting hood. The Pocket Idea B has a small POCKET IDEA nameplate attached to the base of the lens standard.

Pocket Idea B

It is said that the Pocket Idea B was introduced in August 1909, together with the Pocket Idea A1.[1]

In the December 1911 catalogue by Konishi Honten, the camera is called "Idea Pocket Hand Camera" in English and "Pocket Idea Camera B Hand Camera" (ポケット、アイデヤ、カメラB號手提暗箱) in Japanese script.[2] It is offered for ¥15 with a rapid meniscus lens (迅速単玉), a simple Time and Instant shutter, and three double-sided plate holders. In the illustration, the camera has straight folding struts with an apparent spring, and has a square lensboard.

It is said that the camera was modified in March 1916 with a shutter made by the company itself; at least one original illustration also suggests that the folding struts were modified with a thinner shape.[3] Surviving examples are known with the words MANUFACTURED BY ROKUOH-SHA TOKYO inscribed on the shutter plate, around the lens, and sometimes with the RK logo of Rokuoh-sha on the T, B, I speed dial.[4] The aperture scale is graduated in the Uniform Scale, from US 4 to US 64 (i.e. f/8 to f/32).[5]

Idea B

It is said that the camera became the Idea B (アイデアB号) in July 1920, with a revised rounded lensboard.[6] An advertisement dated 1922 for the "Idea B" mentions the ability to take film plates or a film pack, and offers two versions:[7]

  • meniscus (単玉) lens, Ultex shutter, ¥28;
  • RR lens, Ultex shutter, ¥32.

The camera comes with three double-sided plate holders and a case, and the film pack holder is offered as an accessory for ¥6.50.

Surviving examples are known with the newer lensboard, larger folding struts, and a round The Idea nameplate on the left. They have the following lens and shutter combinations:

  • unknown lens, Ultex shutter (T, B, 100, 50, 25);[8]
  • Wollensak Rapid Rectilinear lens, Deltax shutter (T, B, 100, 50, 25).[9]

These cameras do retain the POCKET IDEA nameplate; the name change perhaps applied to the catalogues and advertisements only, and was perhaps not followed by a change in the camera markings.

Notes

  1. Chronology of the official company history Shashin to tomo ni hyaku-nen, reproduced in Tanaka, p.94 of Kurashikku Kamera Senka no.10, and Kikuoka, p.28 of the same magazine.
  2. December 1911 catalogue of Konishi Honten, p.8. A similar document is reproduced in this page at R. Konishi Rokuoh-sha, towards the bottom.
  3. Folding struts: compare the two first illustrations in the section about the Pocket Idea B and Idea B in this page at R. Konishi Rokuoh-sha, towards the middle of the page.
  4. Examples pictured in Kikuoka, p.29 of Kurashikku Kamera Senka no.10, and example pictured in Sugiyama, item 1083, wrongly identified as a Pocket Idea A1.
  5. Sugiyama, item 1083, reports the lens as a Bausch & Lomb RR 12.7cm, but this is unconfirmed.
  6. Kikuoka, p.29 of Kurashikku Kamera Senka no.10, and this page at R. Konishi Rokuoh-sha. The camera presented as a tefuda-size Idea B in the latter is certainly a meishi model instead.
  7. Advertisement reproduced in this page at R. Konishi Rokuoh-sha. The date is reported as 1922 in this other page.
  8. The same example is pictured in Sugiyama, item 1084 (wrongly identified as a "Pocket Idea A-1"), and in Kikuoka, p.28 of Kurashikku Kamera Senka no.10 (identified as a 1909 "Pocket Idea B").
  9. Example pictured in this page of Neco's camera collection.

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