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This page tries to answer a few common questions about what Camera-wiki.org is, and how it works. Click on any question to expand it and show the answer.
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Hello! This page tries to answer a few common questions about what Camera-wiki.org is, and how it works. Click "show" after any question to expand it and show the answer.
  
 
If there's anything else about the wiki you think is unclear, feel free to click the "discussion" tab above this page and request an explanation there.
 
If there's anything else about the wiki you think is unclear, feel free to click the "discussion" tab above this page and request an explanation there.
  
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A wiki is a website where a collection of linked pages can be edited collaboratively, directly from a web browser.
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The most famous example, of course, is Wikipedia, which has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki a good page] explaining the concept (and the origin of its odd name).
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| colspan=2 |<br />This wiki builds upon the earlier work of Camerapedia.org, which was founded in October 2004 by [[User:Lbstone|Brandon Stone]].
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In January 2011, the former Camerapedia.org contents were transferred to new hosting at [http://camerapedia.wikia.com camerapedia.wikia.com]. A number of earlier contributors were [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerapedia/discuss/72157625827923382/ uncomfortable] with their content being hosted on a for-profit, ad-supported service, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikia#Company Wikia]. To address this concern, on 22 January 2011 users [[User:Steevithak|Steevithak]] and [[User:Voxphoto|Voxphoto]] invited the community to organize an alternative non-commercial wiki. It is Camera-wiki.org, which launched on 7 February 2011.
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The community of users quickly adopted the Camera-wiki.org [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/discuss/ Flickr discussion group] and [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/pool/ Flickr photo pool] (adding about 27,00 photos in its first two months). The rate of [[Special:RecentChanges|new edits at Camera-wiki.org]] is significantly higher than at [http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges Wikia]; and our editors are the ones with past experience with the organization and culture of the wiki.
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|| '''What's to stop Camera-wiki.org from going commercial too?'''
 
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| colspan=2 |<br />Camera-wiki.org is organized by individuals on at least three different continents, who don't know each other personally. We try to share responsibilities and ownerships so that no one person could singlehandedly cripple the work. For example, camera-wiki.info is registered by a different person from camera-wiki.org; different people have server passwords, etc. We are also aiming to establish [[Camera-wiki.org:Nonprofit|nonprofit]] status which would formalize organizational (not individual) ownership of domains and other assets.
 
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| colspan=2 |<br />Post your question in the [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/discuss/ discussion forum of our Flickr group] and someone will try to help! (But if you want to know, "is this old camera valuable?" the fastest solution is to search completed auctions on eBay.)
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| colspan=2 |<br />Camera-wiki is a bunch of separate pages written by dozens of volunteers in their spare time. There are many cameras in this world, and even some entire brands, for which no one has had time to write a careful article. If you know something we don't, why don't you [[Special:UserLogin|create a login]] and help us? (And if you have clear photos of the item, please submit them to our [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/pool/ photo pool on Flickr].)
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| colspan=2 |<br />Please  [[Special:UserLogin|create a login]] and sign in, and then you'll see an "edit" link above most of the pages in the wiki. Click that and you'll be able to make additions or changes to the text.
  
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We have one important request, which is that if you create an account, '''please''' add a brief sentence on your talk page or your user page saying hello. Unfortunately many accounts are created simply in an attempt to add spam links to the wiki. Anyone adding spam is immediately blocked; but we also treat "silent" accounts as suspicious, and we generally delete them if they go unused for more than a few days.
  
A wiki is a website where a collection of linked pages can be edited collaboratively, directly from a web browser.
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We also strongly suggest looking through the [[Help:Contents |Help pages]] and understanding how existing wiki pages are constructed before you make any significant changes.  
  
The most famous example, of course, is Wikipedia, who have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki a good page] explaining the concept (and the origin of its funny name).
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[[User:Dinosaur123 | Dinosaur123]] has also provided [http://www16.atwiki.jp/saltysugar/pages/49.html instructions in Japanese (Camera-wikiの編集に参加する) for creating an account]
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| colspan=2 |<br />The [http://www.flickr.com/photos/camerawiki/6854733282/in/pool-camerawiki browser language preferences] for camera-wiki.org's visitors are 58.6% English (as of March, 2012); with the next most common language being German, at 3.6% percent. Articles for camera-wiki.org should be in the English language, with the exception of brief phrases in other languages which can help identify items or illuminate terminology used by manufacturers. Camera-wiki.org prefers to use the native spellings of proper names from other languages: See the [[Help:Markup_reference#Letters_for_German.2C_French.2C_and_Japanese|markup reference page]] on inserting accented characters.
  
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US conventions of spelling and usage are familiar to the greatest number of site visitors (''color'', ''gelatin'', ''aluminum'', etc.), and in starting new articles these are preferred. (In the case of markup "align" tags, the US spelling ''center'', rather than ''centre'', is mandatory.) When editing existing articles, maintain consistency with the spelling and usage which predominates.
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(Answer: we are where all the cool kids went.)
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While displaying as a normal webpage to most visitors, behind the scenes a wiki page is constructed with a special syntax called wiki markup. (This resembles XHTML, but is not exactly the same.)
  
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You can get a look at wiki markup by going to our [[Camera-wiki.org:Sandbox|Sandbox page]] and [http://camera-wiki.org/index.php?title=Camera-wiki.org:Sandbox&action=edit viewing the page source code]—you are welcome to start typing some markup there yourself, to see how it works (though you'll need a [[Special:UserLogin|login]] first).
  
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Under every editing window, there is a link to the [[Help:Editing | Editing help page]], which explains the most-often-used markup tags.
  
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For examples of trickier wiki markup, see this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup Wikipedia help page]. (Be aware that Wikipedia's <nowiki>{{templates}}</nowiki> are typically not the same as [[Special:MostLinkedTemplates|the ones available in Camera-wiki.org]].)
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Post your question in the [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/discuss/ discussion forum of our Flickr group] and someone will try to help! (But to answer "is this old camera valuable?" the fastest solution is to search completed auctions on eBay.)
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| colspan=2 |<br />A particularly important bit of wiki markup syntax is the '''internal link''' from one wiki page to another. This is done by typing the <nowiki>[[Target Page Title]]</nowiki> in double brackets. (You don't need to memorize that: above every edit window there is a button with a blue '''Ab''' icon; clicking that will type a placeholder link for you.)
  
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The phrase between the double brackets must '''match the page title exactly''' (including capitalization, spaces, punctuation marks, etc.) or you'll get a dead link (which [[Link To Nowhere|appears in red]]).
  
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But a handy trick of the wiki markup syntax is that you can make the hyperlinked word or phrase be something ''other'' than the exact page title: Insert a "pipe" character (the vertical line at the far right on your keyboard) after the page title, and add the text as you'd like it to appear. Like this:
  
While displaying as a normal webpage to most visitors, behind the scenes a wiki page is constructed with a special code language, called wiki markup. This vaguely resembles HTML but uses punctuation marks in a different way.
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<nowiki>[[Exact Page Title | this text will appear in blue and link to the named page]]</nowiki>
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You can get a look at wiki markup by viewing the source behind our Sandbox page, where you are welcome to start typing some markup yourself to see how it works (though you'll need a login first).
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| colspan=2 |<br />For just about any camera made in the past 100 years, Camera-wiki.org is very likely to have a page for the manufacturer already. Check [[List of companies|this company list]] and [[Special:Search|search the wiki]] for all the possible name variations.
  
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Frequently a page here for a camera maker will include lists of camera models ([[Minolta#Rangefinder.2C_interchangeable_lens_.2835mm.29|example]]). Links in blue are to pages that already exist (note: sometimes several model names link to a single page that discusses them all together). A link in red indicates a page title that someone thought ought to exist, but which doesn't yet. If you click a red link, an edit window opens saying "''You have followed a link to a page that does not exist yet. To create the page, start typing in the box below''." And that's what you do!
  
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If a camera in the list appears in black, or doesn't appear at all, there's one more step. On the right side of the page, aligned with the relevant subheading, there is a link <nowiki>"[edit]"</nowiki>. Click this and you can add changes to the camera list. (On pages with no subheads, just click the top tab on every page that says '''edit'''.)
  
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In the camera list, type the exact model name if it's missing; enclose the name in double square brackets: normally <nowiki>[[Manufacturer CameraName]]</nowiki>. Click the '''Save page''' button, and when the page refreshes you'll see the phrase has become a red link. Now you can proceed to click that and start typing the content for the new page.
  
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We currently have a [[New Camera Page Template]] under construction. If you copy the source from that page, you can fill in the placeholder text and images with ones of your own.
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| colspan=2 |<br />Many camera models are designated with an obscure string of numbers and letters: [[Mamiya MSX 1000|MSX 1000]] or [[Canon Canonet QL 17 GIII|QL17 GIII]]. Others go for the more minimalist: [[Minolta A|A]] or [[Leica II|II]]. If the pages were titled that way, visitors searching for particular cameras might never find them.
  
Photographs illustrating articles are extremely useful to Camera-wiki.org, and our [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/pool/ Flickr photo pool] was created as our central repository for wiki images. Any photographs of cameras or useful illustrations are welcomed here.
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For clarity, page titles should be the full version of the camera name, including the brand.  
  
The wiki has a page on [[Camera-wiki: Adding images|how to add photos to wiki articles]].
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(In the 21st century, the "manufacturer" typically subcontracts actual manufacture to some unnamed company where labor is cheap, but we take "manufacturer" to mean the company that is ultimately in charge of design, manufacture and marketing. This manufacturer and the brand are typically identical. By contrast, in the 1950s manufacturer and brand were typically distinct: Leitz/Leica, Nippon Kōgaku/Nikon, Konishiroku/Konica, Société Optique et Précision de Levallois/Foca.)
  
While the wiki text itself is licensed under "copyleft" (GPDL 1.3), we wish to respect photo copyrights and give credit to everyone who was nice enough to contribute images. Wherever possible we encourage using the wiki [[Template:Flickr image|Flickr image template]], filling in all its fields correctly.
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Examples of good article naming are [[Canon Canonet QL 17 GIII]] and [[Leica II]].
  
The template asks for two URLs for each photo. The first is the link to a Flickr user's own photo page, including its membership in our photo pool:
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For consistency, it's good to specify the brand within the page title even when the camera is named so distinctively as to render the brand superfluous; therefore "[[Pentax Spotmatic]]" for the camera often simply called "Spotmatic".
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...while the second is the "deep link" to the actual .jpg file hosted on Flickr's servers.
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(Clicking on the images above will take you to pages explaining more about how to copy & paste these URLs.)
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An example of a more complex template is the one used to place Flickr images in wiki articles, discussed under the question '''How are photos included in Camera-wiki pages?''' There is a list of [[Special:MostLinkedTemplates|Camera-wiki.org's most-used templates]]  which shows the many ways they are used in our pages.
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Photographs illustrating what different models look like are extremely useful to Camera-wiki.org. Our [http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/pool/ Flickr photo pool] was created as our central repository for wiki images. Any photographs of cameras or other useful illustrations are gratefully welcomed there.
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While the wiki text itself is licensed under a "copyleft" license, the ([[Camera-wiki.org:GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GFDL 1.3]]), we wish to uphold photo copyrights and give credit to everyone who was kind enough to contribute images. Wherever possible, we encourage using our [[Template:Flickr image|Flickr image template]], filling in all its fields correctly. This appends an "image rights" link to every photo. We offer a help page on [[Help:Adding images|how to add photos to wiki articles]] using this template.
  
 
Because we rely on Flickr's bandwidth for hosting all our images, we must respect their [http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne terms of service], which require a click-through link back to the Flickr page where the image appears.
 
Because we rely on Flickr's bandwidth for hosting all our images, we must respect their [http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne terms of service], which require a click-through link back to the Flickr page where the image appears.
  
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Thus the image template asks for two URLs for each photo. The first is the link to a Flickr user's own photo page (including its membership in our photo pool—i.e. the URL should be in the form <nowiki>http://www.flickr.com/photos/UserID/123456789012/in/pool-camerawiki</nowiki>)
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Locating these two URLs is unfortunately a bit complicated. You may wish to start by looking at a [http://www.flickr.com/photos/camerawiki/5592885988/in/pool-camerawiki step-by-step tutorial]. (Eventually we hope to offer a more automated way of importing Flickr images.)
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[[User:Dinosaur123 | Dinosaur123]] has also provided [http://www16.atwiki.jp/saltysugar/pages/49.html instructions in Japanese (Camera-wikiに画像を登録しよう) for adding images]
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The markup syntax for that gets a little more complicated. Once you understand how our [[Template:Flickr image|Flickr image template]] works, you can combine several image templates into another, larger template. It's probably simplest to copy and paste the code from [[Help:Adding images#Arranging images|the relevant section of the help page "adding images."]]
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A redirect is a special type of wiki page. It intercepts a search or a link to a particular page title, and re-directs it to another one.
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| colspan=2 |<br />A redirect is a special type of wiki page. It intercepts a search or a link to a particular page title, and redirects it to another one.
  
Why would you do this? Well a visitor might search for "Yashicamat," or "Yashica-mat" or "Yashica Mat" (the odd 3rd version is actually the correct one). Wiki page editors might inadvertently create links with the same variations. Redirects can send all of these to the correct page.
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Why would you do this? Well a visitor might search for any of "Yashicamat," or "Yashica-mat" or "Yashica Mat" (of which the odd-looking third version is actually the correct one). Wiki page editors might inadvertently create links with the same variations. Redirects can send all of these to the correct page.
  
 
Likewise, shorter and longer versions of a camera name like "Spotmatic" or "Asahi Pentax Spotmatic" can redirect to [[Pentax Spotmatic]].
 
Likewise, shorter and longer versions of a camera name like "Spotmatic" or "Asahi Pentax Spotmatic" can redirect to [[Pentax Spotmatic]].
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Redirects also help with wiki organization. As it happens, the Yashica Mat is part of a series of related cameras, and it makes sense to treat them all in a single article, [[Yashica 6×6 TLR (crank advance)]]. The names of each individual model in the series can be redirected to this one master page.
 
Redirects also help with wiki organization. As it happens, the Yashica Mat is part of a series of related cameras, and it makes sense to treat them all in a single article, [[Yashica 6×6 TLR (crank advance)]]. The names of each individual model in the series can be redirected to this one master page.
  
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Other kinds of categorization are possible too; but we recommend sticking with categories that [http://camera-wiki.org/index.php?title=Special:MostLinkedCategories&limit=300 already have many members]. (Hint: do a "Find" within that page within your browser to see if some relevant category term might be in use already.)
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The camera output of Japan and Germany is so great that a country category for either would become uselessly long. Instead, there are subcategories such as "Japanese 6x6 TLR" instead.
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In a few cases, the original contributor of a photo could not be contacted. There may also be cases where a photographer has had a change of heart, and no longer wishes us to use their images. And finally, remember that Camera-wiki.org is a volunteer effort. It's possible an inexperienced editor used one of your photos before reading our very clear [[Help:Adding_images|guidelines for adding images]].
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In any of these cases, we will be happy to remove any image at  your request. If the photo originates from Flickr, you should contact any of our [https://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/members/ Flickr group admins] via Flickrmail for help. You can also start a topic on the wiki's [[Camera-wiki.org:Community discussions|Community discussions]] page and a wiki admin will follow up with you.
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Please be aware that your image may also appear in the pages of the commercially-hosted [http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Camerapedia Camerapedia.wikia.com]. We have no connection to them; and so cannot compel them to remove your images.
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Do you own any specialist collector books, vintage magazines, or old publications from manufacturers? Camera-wiki.org articles benefit greatly when you can cite an original source to confirm a fact (dates, prices, etc.), and you [[Help:Editing#Notes|footnote this]] properly.
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If you have some background in wiki administration, there are always a few [[Camera-wiki.org:Todo_list#Ongoing_Maintenance|housekeeping tasks]] we could use help with too (you don't need to be a camera expert). Do you work in a non-profit? We are aiming to set up [[nonprofit]] status, and would love your assistance in that process.
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Finally, we are always happy if you could chip in a bit of money for our hosting costs. There is a PayPal donation button on [http://blog.camera-wiki.org/donate/ the Donate! page of our blog] (the PayPal link is ''not'' hosted on a wiki page which anyone can edit!)
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