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Jump to: navigation, search (Camerapedia) was founded in 2004 by User:Lbstone. This strictly noncommercial, Mediawiki-based site created a serious independent resource about cameras, their lenses and photographic accessories. It contained text freely licensed under GFDL, but the photographs and other illustrations within the articles were linked from other websites, with the permission of those websites and the copyright holders. User:Rebollo_fr became the most prolific author, giving the encyclopedia a strong coverage of vintage Japanese cameras and their makers. In 2006 the Flickr group Camerapedia was founded as a high-capacity, high-bandwidth illustration resource for the wiki.'s webserver was financed by Lbstone, the owner of the domain name; the image resource space was provided by the Flickr community.

It should be clarified that the "dot-com" domain is a completely unrelated entity. Squatting of had predated the formation of the genuine Camerapedia wiki by years.[1] Long no more than a blank page, this was first exploited (for an anonymous advertising page) by December 2007,[2] and one year later into something that looked at first glance like an encyclopedia.[3] The encyclopedic first impression was achieved by plagiarizing Wikipedia.[4] Then as now (2011), was the product of "Information Superbrand, Inc.", a small company based in Irvine, California[5] that has created a large number of worthless websites with "pedia" in their domain names.[6]

By January 2011, Lbstone had negotiated the sale of the domain name to Wikia but had not announced this at Camerapedia or, as far as is known, even privately informed any contributor. When Lbstone did reveal it, few contributors were convinced of the benefits to a long-running independent non-commercial project of hosting by Wikia, despite the promise of Wikia maintaining the technical infrastructure. Wikia made the individual page addresses of redirects to the corresponding pages of[7] Two months later, after incidents of wrong user attribution of wiki texts and unauthorized image uploads - both reverted by Wikia after protests, advertisement mode was switched on. is a commercial site now, meaning its use of copyrighted images or those with "non-commercial" creative commons licenses is on questionable grounds, legally.

The project community found a response to the unwelcomed takeover. They "forked" Camerapedia in the night of January 23rd 2011. User:Voxphoto created a new Flickr group[8] (whose name changed a couple of times), and flickrmailed invitations to anyone who seemed likely to take some kind of action. User:Steevithak had done some hard thinking about what steps would be involved, and in the course of a discussion[9] in the new group he proposed a plan of action[10] that eventually was followed very closely. User:Heritagefutures and others encouraged Voxphoto and Steevithak to make these efforts to launch as a new home for the old wiki community. A majority of Camerapedia contributors moved to the project; within its first six months more than 700 new article pages were added. has a mixed record. The page designs used in were not designed for the narrower column of Wikia's standard layout (needed to leave room for sidebar ads), which causes some articles to re-flow in bizarre ways. Some users have contributed their own images which they have uploaded to Wikia's servers, athough it is possible that a greater number of images have been removed or blanked by unhappy past contributors. Most troubling, there are no active community admins: This leaves any spam, vandalism, and questionable contributions to stand unchallenged.


  1. See this February 2001 grab by Wayback.
  2. See this December 2007 grab by Wayback.
  3. See this December 2008 grab by Wayback.
  4. See for example how the text about "Twin-Lens Reflex Camera" on the top page is taken directly and unthinkingly from the (rather good) 28 September 2008 version of "Twin-lens reflex camera" at Wikipedia. tells its readers: "Mamiya's C-Series, introduced in the 1960s, the C-3, C-2, C-33, C-22 and the Mamiya C330 and Mamiya C220 along with their predecessor the Mamiyaflex,[1] are the only conventional TLR cameras to feature truly interchangeable lenses.[2]" The change to "1960s" from simple "60s" had been the latest one made (on 28 September) to the Wikipedia article. "[1]" and "[2]" are the result of pasting text containing footnote indices from the screen. Here is the version of Wikipedia's "Copyrights" page that was current at the time. This conspicuously points readers to the section "Reusers' rights and obligations", which starts: If you want to use Wikipedia materials in your own books/articles/websites or other publications, you can do so -- but only in compliance with the GFDL. (It continues, providing detail.) Yet the page of December 2008 contains no mention of either "GFDL" or "GNU" and clearly violates the GFDL; worse, the foot of the page states "Copyright © 1995-2008 by Information Superbrand, Inc. All rights reserved." By April 2011, the only noticeable change was that "© 1995-2008" had been updated to "© 1995-2011". (See the current top page of, or the copy of it made in April 2011 and archived here at BackupURL.)
  5. Company profile for "Information Superbrand", Manta. Accessed 4 April 2011.
  6. Stan Schroeder, "Ruining ****Pedias For Fun and Profit", Mashable, 18 February 2008. Accessed 4 April 2011.
  7. For example, was the address within of the page about the Fujica G690 and closely related cameras; since January 24th 2011 this has been a redirect to the derivative article within on the same subject.
  8. Camerawiki Flickr group, at Flickr.
  9. Discussion about forking Camerapedia, at Flickr.
  10. Steevithak's proposal, at Flickr.

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